High gas prices at the pumps are here to stay. I’ve accepted the fact that 3k a year for gas is going to be the norm for me and its probably only going to get worse.

 

I understand that the prices are what they are. But there are things I believe that can be done with enough environmental concious to help ease the pain. Heck, I don't think we will see gas at 93c ever again (that's as cheap as I ever had to pay for it), but big business does not want to pursue alternative options. At least thats the way it seems.

You would thing the big three, especially, would be interested in other alternatives, whether that be hydrogen, bio-diesel, or gas/electric. I think Ford is becoming one of the big three pioneers in the industry releasing the new hybrid Escape. Thats a step in the right direction. I guess if you sit down figure the cost of manufacturing, offsetting cost of higher fuel with higher gas prices, and "consumer demand" it isn't a money making proposition yet.

Thats were I see consumers at fault partly for what is going on right now. The big three will not change untill WE demand that they do. That's not saying we won't pay high prices for gas its just saying"hey we also want an alternative" . Like has been said though we are not the only ones driving costs. The big three doesn't just sell to americans, it would probably take a global intitiative to actually change these practices. I don't see this happening untill florida is an island at best and the global economy has tanked completely.

Yep, I'm feeling hot aired and doom-and-gloom today. Shoot, catch me next week I may be saying how much fun my supercharged F150 that is getting 8 MPG is. And asking if 40" tires and a 10" lift will void my warrenty.

Later,

P.S. register to vote

 

None of us want to pay what we are paying for gas now let alone two or three times the current price. The reality is it could be the best thing that has happened to this country in a long time. Detroit, for lack of a better term, would have to make their vehicles more efficient; our F150s could use a weight loss and the standard programming should be more like Superchips getting better mileage and performance.

If GM can get a Corvette to run sub-thirteen second quarter mile and still get nearly 30mpg on the road, there is no reason the average F150 should not be able get 20mpg.

If we as a country are forced to make changes and the net result is we no longer need to kiss OPEC and its members rear ends, we would be much better off.

 

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I have read numerous post about bad fuel mileage, but i gotta say that i run the **** outa my truck it has 5.4, 3.73 possi's
265/70/17's. i drive it like i stole it even across the street to check the mail. lol, ne way i just filled up 297 miles mostly driving in town and it took 22.1 gallons. that aint to bad. considering my road is covered with big twin black marks.

 

Drive a motorcycle as much as possible to get even with the arabs.


to wit..........

 

Wow.

I guess a lot of people don't understand a free market economy and supply and demand anymore?

 

Why don't you explain it to us??? Don't forget to include how OPEC *******s up the whole concept of "free market" by reducing the supply artificaly at times of peak demand in order to cause price increases.

VERY FEW THINGS in this country are free market based anymore...farmers are paid to produce less to keep prices higher, labor unoins inflate the hourly compensation of employees by refusing to let non-union workers take a job at a lower pay rate than the union feels is exceptable, OPEC sets the prices of fuel, and so on. In a true free market supply and demand does set the price of everything....to bad we are far from a free market society today.

 

Clap Clap clap.....*wipes tear from eye*

 

I finally just had to jump in here. RamSS/T, I agree with you, but permit me an observation if I might. I deliver gasoline to the stations. That's my job. I get accused of setting the prices every night <smile>

It does seem to me though, the people who do the most complaining about prices are the ones who will spend hours inside the station, rubbing the grey stuff off the lottery tickets, while their vehicle is idleing outside, using up that so called expensive gasoline. The same ones who will pay $6.00 a gallon for Desani filtered water in a 20 oz. plastic bottle at $1.09 per bottle. The same ones who get angry with me when I ask them to turn their motors off while fueling!

I pay the same price as you guys do, I get no discount. But, after all these years, I've learned to keep my leg out of it when prices are high. Does wonders for my MPG figures.

Sure, I remember gasoline at $.25 a gallon, but then, I was working for $2.00 an hour. I'll take what I'm earning now, thank you, and pay a couple of bucks a gallon for gas. Sure, it'd be nice to be able to buy gas at a buck a gallon, but those days are gone. I'fn yur gonna gripe, buy a Focus!

I too would like to see lower prices. But, I shudder to think of the government getting involved with gas prices!

Flagship

 

I heard a congressman say that maybe the government should slap an additional $2 a gal tax on gas to pay for the proposed social security fix. That would be the deathblow for full size SUV’s and pickups.

 

You must have a FLUX CAPACITOR on that thing.

 

Hmmm....I wonder how it can been for supply and demand issue when for example a gas station brings in a tanker...they pay whatever the rate is that day and the tanker dumps his load into the underground tanks and then leaves. Now, let's say that tanker load lasts the station at least 3 days. How is it that same tanker load of fuel can change prices sitting in the dang tank in the ground after it's already been paid for at a set rate?! You follow me? The other day gas was $2.00 a gallon here. Then on the very next day it had jumper to $2.15. Hmmm.....

That's like a hardware store in FL buying plywood at a certain price and they sell it to the customer for let's say $22 per 4'x8' sheet. Then a hurricane is forecast so everyone runs to the store to buy plywood...but NOW the price all of a sudden is $40 per sheet? Same thing as the gas price changes isn't it? I do believe stores get busted for gouging customers for no good reason (using the supply/demand excuse when a hurricane is coming).

 

Lowes did !!!


Before Lowes got sued for it i could not understand why they had a weather center of there own.

 

Oh, boy... One of my pet peeves.

You spend $25 - $35 K for a truck. You need/want a new truck. Gas price increases raise your gas budget, say... $25, 55, 80, $200-$300 !!! a month. Now you have to drive your motorcycle; buy a daily driver - maybe even sell that new F-150???

You probably couldn't afford it to begin with. Tough life lesson, to be sure.

 

My father owned a service station for 20 years. The way it works is 'replacement cost'. When prices went up, my dad had to raise prices immediately in order to collect enough money to pay for that next tank of gas. When the tankers came (2-3 times a week), my dad paid the going rate for the gas on the day it was delivered. When gas went up 10-20 cents, he needed to collect that money before the next tanker truck came with the next load. When he made money was when fuel costs dropped. Then he wouldn't drop prices until the cheaper fuel was delivered and free market competition pushed prices back down.