Just some food for speculation. yes I've already been to Snopes, found some related denials.

http://black-tactics.com/penta.swf

 

Well, that's all very interesting . . .

Let's assume for a moment that AA 77 wasn't what hit the Pentagon . . . .

Then where's the plane and the 64 people aboard ?

Interesting how the plane and all aboard disappeared at the same time. Did it crash sometime earlier? If so, there's no evidence of a crashed plane anywhere else, so based on the line of thinking in the video then it didn't crash (no wreckage left over any place), so that means it must have landed some place.

Of course, if that's the case, then either the government is hiding everybody (maybe where they're hiding Kennedy and Elvis and all the aliens) or they killed everyone shortly after the plane landed to cover up the fact that a small private jet or missle hit the Pentagon (because that's some how much worse and must be kept secret and justifies hiding a 757 and getting rid of everyone aboard).

Me thinks not.

 

Here are a few questions I would have:

If flight 77 did “not” crash into the Pentagon where did it crash and why has no one said anything about seeing it crash else where, anyone as in witnesses?

I don’t know the answer to my next question one way or the other so maybe there is an answer. Was there any evidence left of the two separate 747/757 (not sure which it was) that crashed into the World Trade Center towers?

I do know from reading that there should have been much more concrete on the ground from the twin towers but the reason there was not is because a lot of it basically turned to dust, huge chunks of concrete just turned into dust…

I could also understand how some people may think they heard a missile. Has anyone ever heard a 747/757 flying at some 500mph less then 50 feet in the air? I haven’t but I would imagine it may sound like some kind of missile.

This is just more to add to what ever speculation is out there. Personally I don’t see what could come out of lying about a passenger jet crashing into the Pentagon at about the same time 2 others hit the twin towers in NY and another crashed into the ground in another state…

 

Here is the clincher, had Clinton actually done something about terrorism during his 8 years in office maybe we wouldn’t be having this conversation…

 

Interesting idea, full of holes technically and logistically, food for thought, but rest your brain, a plane is what hit the Pentagons reinforced rings, not a missile.

 

Those responsible for this cover-up also killed Kennedy, know who's really buried in Grant's tomb, and have the secret plans for 100mpg carburetors.

 

So..............What are they saying, That we blew up the pentagon ourselves? That the terrorists's blew it up? I dont get the message. So what the FBI took the "flims". If they didn't, we'd be watching "worlds most dangerous plane crashes" on Fox network until we puke.

 

You have to admit though...it was a cool presentation! I give it two thumbs up!

and a nanner

 

Oh Boy, I must be preaching to the wrong audience, all of you guys probably think we actually landed a guy on the moon.
Everybody knows it was only a sound stage in Arizona....

You gotta admit it was an interesting little presentation as far as fairytails go!!

 

That's just plain crazy!

















Everybody knows they faked it in Nevada.

 

Ditto. Enjoyed the watch.
What I got from it was that a plane hit it. Just not a 747.
Next they will have one telling us the missing 747 was shoot down by the military.

 

The plane that hit the pentagon was a 757 (not a big plane, and nowhere near as big as a 747)




TWA flight 800, the one that blew up and over Long Island Sound was a 747. It was one of the older 747-131 series planes (not as big as the 747-400s)



There's a lot of argument over what brought TWA 800 down. Theories tend to be:
1: Naval exercise went wrong and a missile shot it down.
(dubious)
2. Terrorist shot it down with hand held Stinger S.A.M.
(not likely . . . but for some reason it wouldn't surprise me)
3. Terrorist suicide bomber
(maybe)
4. Fuel vapor in tanks exploded
(most likely)

Ahhhhh. conspiracy theories. Gotta love 'em.

 

Not much concrete was used in the construction of the world trade center.

There was plenty of evidence of the planes hitting the WTC. (Big pieces of engines ans such on the ground)

A 757 IS a big plane just not as big as a 747. But it is much larger than say a 737 or an A320

There were a bunch of be-headed light posts in the Pentagon's parking lot after the crash. Which a missle would not have done.

O.K. now I have watched the presentation. I call it a presentation because if someone wanted to talk facts they wouldn't have put all that fancy work into it.

First of all it is the PENTAGON! I would hope that the FBI would know every camera watching it and act before ASAP to get the tapes and make damn sure know one EVER saw them for national security.

The parking lots at the Pentagon are HUGE (have you ever been there?) a fast moving plane would have plenty of time to miss 395 and get low enough to smack a few feet before hitting the pentagon.

The air traffic controllers said it looked like a military plane the way it was flying irradically. Well duh!! of course it did because whomever was flying it WAS flying it erradically!! And just because some by the book flight instructor said the the guy SUSPECTED of flying the plane couldn't fly doesn't mean he didn't do it! Look at the last few minutes of the radar path the plane took it looks like a kid was flying it.

XLT is right a 757 at 400-500+ mph low to the ground makes a hellish noise like a missle. And it would certainly sound like a jet fighter becuase the engines are bigger than fighter planes and they would have been at full throttle.

And no there isn't always big enough pieces of planes after a wreck, what about the fourth plane that crashed in PA??? Flight 93 (I believe) not a piece was left bigger then a few inches accross. Get this months readers digest and the wife of one of the guys on the plane describes the crash sight right after it happened.

Last but not least, yes it would look like a missle hit the pentagon because it was so reinforced with concrete,rebar,kevlar, and yed Rhino Truck bed linning material that the wings which are the weakest part of a planes would just shatter into millions of little pieces on a 500+ mph impact and the fuselage would bullet through the building while it itself would desintigrate both from shock energy and 3000+ degree burning jet fuel.

I need a drink!

 

Thanks for the clarification…

I know not a lot of concrete was used in the WTC as compared to metal and other materials but was just referring to something I had seen on Discovery or a show like that in which they talked about how a lot of “material” from the WTC due to the extreme forces had turned a lot of material like concrete into dust.

I wasn’t sure, as I mentioned, about there being any evidence of the jets the flew into the WTC, so again thanks for that information as well.

If you watch that video and look at some of the crashes in which there is nothing else involved with the other crash shots (jets and crashing into the ground) you can see there is not a whole lot of pieces left that resemble an aircraft. Sure there is some but that is only a jet and the ground so if it is very possible to not recognize say 60% - 70% of a jet that crashed into the ground then adding a building into the mix makes it very possible they would be very little to nothing that is recognizable as a jet…

 

I watched the video. The thing I noticed was that there was a huge amount of black smoke, more than just a building fire should cause. There was a huge amount of carbon based fuel there. A plane loaded with jet fuel seems to fit the flame/smoke seen in the pictures.

All the pictures of plane crashes they showed were in open fields, as most crashes are. How often does a full size jet crash into a building big enough to contain the impact? Most of the modern aircraft is aluminum. Beer cans won't last in a fire for very long. It seems to me the building contains the impact, and the fuel enriched fire consumes the aluminum parts. The few remaining metal parts get mixed in with hundreds of thousands of pounds of other mixed debris.

I'm willing to believe that a plane hit that building.