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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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I wouldnt quote something from a movie like that
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Afterwards, I was trying to figure out why the movie got an 'R' rating.

I guess it was the small piece where the soldiers are talking about the CD they played in while in thier tank. The song was played and it had the 'F' word in it. After that I heard a soldier say '****' and there was one shot of a wounded arm that looked gross.
That was maybe five minutes of the movie and could have been left out.
I couldn't think of anything else that would get it an 'R'.

Did I miss something?
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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closed minded

What did you expect Raoul buddy? I wouldn't waste my $$ seeing a politically motivated film that someone like Rush Limbaugh would produce chastising Klintoon if he were to make one. A friend saw the movie and told me there was soooo much BS and twisted facts in "9/11" that even he was surprised, and he always votes for Democrats. I have only seen one other film by MM, "roger & me", so it appears nothing has changed with MM.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Raoul
Afterwards, I was trying to figure out why the movie got an 'R' rating.

I guess it was the small piece where the soldiers are talking about the CD they played in while in thier tank. The song was played and it had the 'F' word in it. After that I heard a soldier say '****' and there was one shot of a wounded arm that looked gross.
That was maybe five minutes of the movie and could have been left out.
I couldn't think of anything else that would get it an 'R'.

Did I miss something?
I agree. I don't think you missed anything. They did show the burned bodies being dragged in the streets and hung on that bridge, but they showed that on the evening news and on the front page of local newspapers when it happened.

The R rating was probably unjustified when compared to some other things, but I know the theatre I saw it at was not enforcing that restriction anyway.

Konig, thanks for the response. I'll have to read up more on Caesar. I had no idea he was so honest about his manner of governing.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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I had forgotten that it had the bodies hanging on the bridge.
You're right, I had saw the same clip on the evening news so, it just didn't register with me at the time as 'R' material.

Frank, I can understand. In a way I wish I had waited for the musical version of it on Broadway.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Quote from Caeser:


“Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”


http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...esar-quote.htm

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/caesar.htm
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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I actually wrote that one myself.

Hey, who would've listened to 'Raoul, The Goat Herder' ?
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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I was waiting to see if anyone was smart enough to find that..... I read that same "snopes" site... but I dont know their sources either.... Im glad someone looked it up, some of you *are* thinking
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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I'm no idealogically blinded Bush fan but I find it hard to believe that any American president could be in on September 11th and plot to kill a couple thousand innocent people. Bush may be incompetent, greedy, vengeful, stupid, lazy, etc... but I can't believe that he would plot to kill all those people. I was reading a thing at snopes.com yesterday about that book written about by some frenchman (go figure) that claimed the September 11th attacks were a hoax, they did a good job tearing him up when he claimed that a plane never actually crashed into the pentagon.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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For the record:

The current conversation about bomb plots, and American involvement in 9/11 has nothing to do with the movie.

Wouldn't want this drift to lead those that haven't seen the movie to think this has anything to do with it.

If I was led to believe that Moore implied in any way that Bush had a hand in 9/11, I would not go see the movie either. It's just too preposterious.
 

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Konig
I was waiting to see if anyone was smart enough to find that..... I read that same "snopes" site... but I dont know their sources either.... Im glad someone looked it up, some of you *are* thinking
really... why post something you know to be false or at least questionable in it's origins? seems pretty lame to me. I don't know if you knowingly posted something false or if you are just trying to cover your **** now by implying that you knew it and you pulled a fast one on the rest of us. oh well, no harm, no foul.

well done Odin's Wrath.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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I'd recommend to keep doing as your told, believing everything they tell you, and asking no questions so they can continue to keep the big-bad-boogie-man away... Have you perfected your hail Bush salute yet?

ROFLMAO….

Man that is truly funny and typical of liberals when they run out of talking points and/or are faced with facts to difficult to handle and debate.

Because I happen to back President Bush on a few very important issues, protecting America and it’s citizens, tax cuts and a few others I am some 100% pro-Bush regardless.

You liberals out there are really going nuts being out of power and having very little influences over the public.

Here is your possible ticket back. Come up with a solution or plan to deal with the problems of terrorist and then get back to us. Until then all your doing is rambling on about how screwed up everything is.

We seen Clintons proposed solution to terrorism and it got over 3,000 innocent American men, women and children killed. We see President Bush’s plan and haven’t seen the full results but at least the terrorist know America means business, well some in America do while others are absolutely scared to death of terrorist and are ready to cave in and try to understand them.

So what is your plan, what are the liberals proposed solutions to terrorism? Please do not tell me anything but what President Bush is doing because that is NOT a plan. Please do not tell me that appeasement is the way because that is a FAILED plan, it was a failed plan with terrorist in general, it was a failed plan with Iraq and it was a failed plan with North Korea, all tried and tested by the liberal President Clinton.

So, please tell my your proposed solution to a REAL and GRAVE threat, please stop putting our children in danger of being killed for others to gain power in an elected office, please stop blindly following morons like Moore who have no clue on what is going on, no ***** to protect his own family and no brains to realize just how stupid he looks to the VAST MAJORITY of the public.

Moore is ONLY for making a TON OF MONEY for himself, he does not CARE about the little guy or anyone for that matter. I thought you people on the left HATED the nasty rich people and hated the fact that some nasty rich people run this country. If that is the case then why don’t you hate nasty rich people like Moore and Kerry, both loaded beyond belief with cash and goods and both trying to run this country.

I really wish you people would get some kind of “true” belief system and values and then “actually” practice them. Many of the liberals spew nonsense from their mouths and NEVER for a moment believe in it UNLESS it will work out for them and them alone…

Get a clue people, many on the left are out for ONLY themselves and are MUCH richer then those they whine about…
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
...So what is your plan, what are the liberals proposed solutions to terrorism?...
Moore is ONLY for making a TON OF MONEY for himself....
The Plan will be laid out in February at President Kerry's State of the Union address.

Moore has already said he hopes to make enough money that he could vote for Bush.
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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really... why post something you know to be false or at least questionable in it's origins? seems pretty lame to me. I don't know if you knowingly posted something false or if you are just trying to cover your **** now by implying that you knew it and you pulled a fast one on the rest of us. oh well, no harm, no foul.

well done Odin's Wrath.

of course I knew, I have used that one 3 times before, no one cought it though.

I didnt mean anything by it, and yes I had read the snopes article prior to posting it.... sorry but my humor is sick sometimes, I got a kick out of it. I like the meaning behind it, its still important...but Caeser saying it? nah...but who cares, its still a valid statement...and I know it made *some* of you think...
 
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Brevity is a much better way to get your point across than rambling on. I sadly must say that I do not read most of Burt's posts because they are so long. So for those who feel similarly I did the reading of Burt's last post and with a little reading between the lines I think I got all you need to know boiled down to one sentance below. Thanks for the one sentance summary Burt. I think I agree with you on this one.



Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport

President Bush is...a FAILED plan,... a failed plan with terrorist in general,... a failed plan with Iraq,... a failed plan with North Korea...and...in danger of being killed for...how stupid he looks.

 



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