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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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You can't pay for wrongs done in the past. Where does the statute of limitations run out on this. What about all those people that got ticketed along our interstates back when the speed limits were reduced to 55. Do they have a case in court for a refund now that the limits are back to 60, 65, and 70? Live in the present, prepare for the future, but LEARN (not earn) from the past. We can't undo what was done, no amount of money will erase that wrong. The dollar figures that could be awarded will only punish those alive today that have to pay it. There would be no sensible way to make such payments, and they would be made to people that suffered nothing from the actions of several generations ago.
EXCELLENT POST !!!!

Most crimes have a statute of limitations that is limited to 7 years. The most notable exception would be murder, which has no time limit for prosecution in most states in the US. (Maybe all states ?)

Paying any reparations would be a punishment for today's taxpayers. I don't know about you guys, but I never owned anyone or profited from any member of my family owning anyone.

I think it's just another example of lazy a$$e$ trying to get something for nothing...

Get 'em 01 XLT !!!

 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Well if you want to look at it as skin color then by all means go ahead. Liberalism is what is dieing out in this country and that is a good fact. Conservatives is growing and has seen some of the biggest increases in all “colors” of people.

Why is this so, and how do we know this? Look around at some of the liberals still flopping around, they are just going nuts being out of power and knowing they most likely will not if ever see power again.

Many Americans (all colors) have seen what the liberal agenda is all about which is to hold everyone in place rather then moving forward. The biggest thing putting the nail in the coffin for the liberal is their stance, or absence of any stance of foreign affairs and protecting America.

That one subject, national defense is what will insure the republicans remain in power for a very long time and basically the death of the liberals from ever regaining power again. President Bush will win in 2004 by a very nice margin, he will also bring the republicans along for the ride in the senate and the house as well.

I don’t know where you got your information because I have seen Morris on the Fox network many of times and he has basically stated it is all over for the liberals for a very long time, that basically there time has come and gone. 40 years from now they may come back because many people will forget about all the victims etc and will want the free money.

A conservative is a conservative it is a belief that has nothing to do with being white or black or any other color, it is because of the values and beliefs as well as conservative seeing people for who they are rather then their color that conservatism is growing in America, come along for the ride it will be great…
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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Who is Bill O'Reilly
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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People **** me off. YOU do not deserve cash for what your father or grandfather or even great grandfather went through. YOU had nothing to do with it. YOU were not affected by it, well maybe if it was your father.

If those money grubbing, brainwashed, bum looking for cash blacks get reparations for their past relatives, I'm going to sue because my great great great grandfather was caught by the Yankees back during the Civil War, and I'll demand reparations because HE had to suffer in prison camp.

Well technically he probably would have been shot and kill right there. Just an example.

Also, I am not racist. If your too damn lazy to go get yourself a job and earn some cash, YOU DO NOT DESERVE A HANDOUT. Yes, if you just lost your job you should have 3 months before welfare is gone. YOU LOSE not my problem.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
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This is nothing more then another stab to keep races separated by the color of their skin. ...
All I can say is ouch!!! That is so true.

And the truly sad part is that is one of the reasons that racism will never go away.


Also at what point in history did treating everyone the same/equal turn you into a racist? Or is that the ones who cry racism first are the ones who really are the racists (which I found to be more true).
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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OK, in this case, I'll go along with you, but with reservation.

My reservation is, if this case goes to court and makes it through the system and is disallowed, what does that do to family members of deceased people who are suing the responsible party for the person's death? Since the dead person isn't here to fight the case and receive the money, does that mean all liability cases involving death are now all thrown out of court?

Could be apples and oranges, but I think a case can be made. It could open up a whole other can of worms.

I say pay the reparations. $20k to the slave on record and it's up to the survivors to prove they are decendants and they can split the $20k between them. They'd also have to prove they were tax payers or dependants of tax payers. Then it could be given back as a tax credit spread over the next 10 years.
Why the hell do The descendants deserve any money? They were NOT the slaves, they where not tortured or anything. They where set free same as you and me. They had the same opportunites as me. They get free money because they are black and might have had relatives in the distant past that where slaves? Blacks in Africa started the whole slave market. Why don't we send these idiots over there to collect? Let Africa pay the reperations.

I should get reperations becuase I am a descendant of a General captured in WW1 that was beaten and tortured. Where is my money. Oh the pain and misery I have been through thinking of that. Oh my...I feel faint....they whipped him so hard I was born with the scars....20k will sure help me through it though.


Jesus christ.......Just because your great grandfather might have been a slave does not entitle you to jack sh*t. It enititled him to it. And if he is dead, then let it go.

I say to anyone that wants reperations for something that DID NOT happen to them, strip em down naked and let us hunt them with paintballs for 5 bucks a shot and they can earn their money the old fashioned way.

And anyone that wants to pay it... "A fool and his money are soon parted"
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by captainoblivious
All I can say is ouch!!! That is so true.

And the truly sad part is that is one of the reasons that racism will never go away.


Also at what point in history did treating everyone the same/equal turn you into a racist? Or is that the ones who cry racism first are the ones who really are the racists (which I found to be more true).
You got it right on the mark, those that are racist or love dividing people based on what ever, be it color, wealth etc are those the continue to ruin this great country and do not wish to see it as ONE country. They HATE the term “Together we stand, divided we fall” If there is no division of people then there is absolutely NO need for liberals. Liberals derive ALL their power from making people weak and stupid, to make people feel good about being a victim without a crime. How does anyone become a victim without a crime? I don’t know so you will have to ask a liberal.

They are doing everything in their power now to make another victim class and make another separation of people, which are those that are over weight as one class, and those that are not. They want to give people that are over weight special things and money from those that do not have a special class “yet”.

To the liberals acting on behalf of the over weight it goes something like this:

“See those evil people that are not over weight, they are the reason you are over weight, eating fast food, and popcorn at the movies because they think they have a right to it, so since they have a right to eat fast food who is to tell you that you can’t have what they have but yet it makes you over weight, it is NOT your fault, it is their fault and we will make them PAY!!!!”

Liberals always get tripped up by one very simple phrase: Personal Responsibility

Anyway, there will be NO reparations in this country because nobody wants another civil war and it very well could happen if reparations were handed out. Think about that and how much hate there will be because of some liberals basically walking up to you and taking a few hundred dollars out of your pocket and telling you ”We are taking this because your great, great, great grandfather (might) have owned slaves and giving it to this guy who’s great, great, great grandfather (might) have been a slave”

Until the ideals and philosophy of liberalism is gone and done away with there will always be prejudices and hate between groups of people because the liberals are the ones that always light the fire’s and walk away waiting on the next round of victims…
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport

Until the ideals and philosophy of liberalism is gone and done away with there will always be prejudices and hate between groups of people because the liberals are the ones that always light the fire’s and walk away waiting on the next round of victims…


I can imagine it's only the black, french-liberals that want the reperations.

I fully agree with you 01 and Captain O...

Its funny to see the human race. On one hand they scream racism and wanting to be equal. Wave 20k under their noses and lo and behold......they are seperate from us because their grand daddy's were slaves and we owe it to them. Thus saying they are black, and not equal to the whites. They are now above the whites cuz they got 20k for free and some dumbass liberal gave it to them for the votes. So now who is going to feel sorry for the whites? We are becoming minorites in many cities. I guess we will have to wait our turn just like the handicapped. They have more parking spaces then the non handicapped in some locations.

There is a time when the minority will rule and the system WILL collapse. Majority must rule. But the silent majority is working....everday, going to work, and not having the time to protest and lobby the government. All this crap is happening while we are trying to make a living. Maybe all the white people should quit working and go and protest and **** and moan and cry becuase we are not treated fairly. And get our free 20k.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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I hear what you’re saying but you have got to get away from this “black people” vs. “white people” it is not black people against white. It is ideology that is the problem, the liberal ideology and it is practiced by all colors of people and the majority of those people that practice it are “white” like you and I.

There are untold thousands of blacks that believe the same philosophy as we do, personal responsibility, one should make it on their own without handouts unless it is absolutely needed.

Don’t get me wrong I am not trying to lash out at you but it seems you may be caught up into exactly what the liberals what you caught up in which is one race pitted against another. I would say for every “minority” you hear about wanting special treatment or a handout there are 10 more that find that completely wrong.

It is ideology and philosophy that is the problem, not skin color…
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Savageyzf:

I hear what you’re saying but you have got to get away from this “black people” vs. “white people” it is not black people against white. It is ideology that is the problem, the liberal ideology and it is practiced by all colors of people and the majority of those people that practice it are “white” like you and I.

There are untold thousands of blacks that believe the same philosophy as we do, personal responsibility, one should make it on their own without handouts unless it is absolutely needed.

Don’t get me wrong I am not trying to lash out at you but it seems you may be caught up into exactly what the liberals what you caught up in which is one race pitted against another. I would say for every “minority” you hear about wanting special treatment or a handout there are 10 more that find that completely wrong.

It is ideology and philosophy that is the problem, not skin color…
Oh I fully understand that......

I work for 23 doctors and two of them happen to be "black"
Just for a field trip one day we went to look at mercedes, BMW and Lexus.

I can say that the doctors are driving a Suburu and Ford. They can afford much more but they where pretty much neglected and treated as though they could not afford the more exspensive vehicles. It was an eye opening expierence for me.

I didn't mean to come across as whites versus blacks, but the ones that want reperations are pissed at the White slave owners and somebody mentioned skin color and I went off on that. I totally agree that the more its brought up the worse it gets.

My point, I will try to make more eliquently this time, is those very same people use their skin color when money is at hand. Wave 20k under their noses and looky there.

I know not all blacks are the same. Just as all whites. There are whites I wouldn't let onto my drive way and I can coin the term trailor trash wich in itself is wrong becuase not all people that live in trailors are trash.

It just so happens that most of the blacks happen to be liberals.
Its the mindset of them I cannot stand.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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It just so happens that most of the blacks happen to be liberals.
I would say it is the "most" you hear from, which gives a very false perception of a group, those that you do not hear from may have completly different view points and it very well could be the majority of the group but no one knows because they are quiet and busy taking care of business and caring for family. So the few load months (of any group) make it seem like they represent the whole group when in fact they don't...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
... I would say for every “minority” you hear about wanting special treatment or a handout there are 10 more that find that completely wrong...
savageyzf - you said it yourself:
...But the silent majority is working....everday, going to work, and not having the time to protest and lobby the government. All this crap is happening while we are trying to make a living.
That right there is a huge problem.

The majority are out the busting their ***. My view on this whole subject may be skewed because that is all I know, and that is all I surround myself with.

I work for a fairly large and very diverse company. Alot of people are here because of their hard work, others are the typical white collar idiots that make your day horrible. But they all come down to the same thing, they come in, work, make eachothers jobs harder by spreading stupidity, then they go home. And this happens with EVERYONE, and remember I said my company is very diverse. No crying from handouts or anything like that.

Same with friends. ***** happens, they just shrug their shoulders and go on.




It's all about setting goals and working toward them, like 01 said in another posts creating your own pride.

If anyone feels different then that, please feel free to leave this country and start your own country based on the 'Not everyone is created equal or deserves to be treated the same' slogan.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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I watched to see if your email appeared on the show, but he didn't read it. A couple of people said that they thought that they should be fully entitled to reparations, which totally disagree with. Maybe your email was just a little too long or something, but I did hear one time that he gets hundreds of emails a day on subjects that he talks about.
 
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