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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Talking Bill O'Reilly on Fox News

I was watching Bill O’Reilly tonight on Fox News and he had a segment on reparations. Anyway I am not one to send email to anyone, very rarely when I do. However after watching the moron Bill was interviewing about reparations I felt compelled to send some email. Watch tomorrow night to see if he reads it or not. Below is what I sent. I did not include my name here with this post. If he does read it you will see my first name is not Burt…

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To those that think they are going to see any money from the government, get over it you ain’t seeing any money. The day they start paying out money for reparations is the day I forever stop paying taxes. No tax money, no reparations, good day…
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Some blacks, the ones that have been brainwashed by the liberals some how believe they are entitled to reparations because their ancestors were slaves. Now, if they can find the slave owners and they have some money then great, go for it, hire Johnny and have your day in court.

Since I am pretty sure there are no slaves or slave owners left it looks like the bottom of the bucket is dry.

Now, with that said I can not for the life of me fathom why one human being would find it ok to “own” and totally control another human being (though liberals love that thought and practice it daily) and find that ok. However back in those days it was considered ok. Africa at that time was in the slave trade themselves, blacks selling and trading other blacks. So if the few brainwashed ones, because the majority know what reparations is really about, anyway for the few that believe what the liberals are feeding them they need to sue the African government first since that is at the top of the list as far as slaves were concerned.

As for the majority of blacks knowing what this is really about is it is about pitting one race against the other something liberals LOVE to do, to make victims out of one group and the fact that liberals ONLY see skin color and not the person for who they really are.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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To those that think they are going to see any money from the government, get over it you ain’t seeing any money. The day they start paying out money for reparations is the day I forever stop paying taxes. No tax money, no reparations, good day…[/i]
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I guess you already stopped paying taxes. Reparations have already been paid. Wasn't too many years ago, my cousin's wife got $20,000 for her stay in an internment camp during WWII.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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That was big time with the blacks back in jersey........you know, something for nothing. Now I don't condone slavery or anything closely to it. But a great great grandson expects money for something that happened before they where even born.

Sorry, I'll continue to pay taxes......after paying Uncle Sam back taxes for 20 years Yeah 20 YEARS of $250@month I'll never go back to missing paying my taxes
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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I guess you already stopped paying taxes. Reparations have already been paid. Wasn't too many years ago, my cousin's wife got $20,000 for her stay in an internment camp during WWII.
KEY WORD "cousin's wife got $20,000 for her stay in an internment camp".

That is fine with me if it was to correct a wrong. However there are NO slaves alive today so NO one to receive any money...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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I guess you already stopped paying taxes. Reparations have already been paid. Wasn't too many years ago, my cousin's wife got $20,000 for her stay in an internment camp during WWII.
The Americans, of Japanese descent, should never have had to go through that. The ones that did, deserved whatever reparations they recieved. Americans of German and Italian descent were treated much better in comparison, because of thier appearance. I don't think that the children of those who were interned, have recieved one red cent. Nor should they.
 
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I should have made my first post more clear as to what reparations I was speaking to. However I believe my second post made that very clear.

So to make it clear, if someone is alive and was wronged then I have no problem righting the wrong, if they are dead and buried then they have no need for the money...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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I agree. No one should suffer, and if they had, reparations are owed. But I don't think anyone is owed money for what happened 140 years ago.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
I should have made my first post more clear as to what reparations I was speaking to. However I believe my second post made that very clear.

So to make it clear, if someone is alive and was wronged then I have no problem righting the wrong, if they are dead and buried then they have no need for the money...
OK, in this case, I'll go along with you, but with reservation.

My reservation is, if this case goes to court and makes it through the system and is disallowed, what does that do to family members of deceased people who are suing the responsible party for the person's death? Since the dead person isn't here to fight the case and receive the money, does that mean all liability cases involving death are now all thrown out of court?

Could be apples and oranges, but I think a case can be made. It could open up a whole other can of worms.

I say pay the reparations. $20k to the slave on record and it's up to the survivors to prove they are decendants and they can split the $20k between them. They'd also have to prove they were tax payers or dependants of tax payers. Then it could be given back as a tax credit spread over the next 10 years.
 

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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OK, in this case, I'll go along with you, but with reservation.

My reservation is, if this case goes to court and makes it through the system and is disallowed, what does that do to family members of deceased people who are suing the responsible party for the person's death? Since the dead person isn't here to fight the case and receive the money, does that mean all liability cases involving death are now all thrown out of court?

Could be apples and oranges, but I think a case can be made. It could open up a whole other can of worms.

I say pay the reparations. $20k to the slave on record and it's up to the survivors to prove they are decendants and they can split the $20k between them.
Well, with all due respect I still disagree. Reason your reasoning is way too vague. In the 1800’s there were many deaths of any race due to the medical practices of the time. So, if we used your reasoning about “the dead are not here to defend themselves” then what about descendants of a deceased parent, brother or sister due to the medical practices of the time. Were the medical practices of that time bad? No, that is how it was done, they practiced medicine as they knew how. Slavery was the same thing, it was accepted (still have no clue how one human being could find it ok to own another) anyhow that is how it was and it WAS an accepted practice of the time.

Times have changed, time for people to stop acting like a victim when they are NOT a victim but just looking to free load off those who bust their *** every day. Yes those looking for a handout for what happen well before their time or our time are nothing more then freeloading morons with no case.

They do not deserve one penny and if they pursue it and lose which they will they should be forced to pay back the American government for all court cost for wasting tax payer’s money on a bogus free loading scheme. Sorry but I do not “feel their pain” if they are suffering today it is because they choose to do so, not because others have brought it on them. Maybe one day they will wake up and realize as long as they keep listening to the liberal BS they will always be stuck because that is exactly where liberals want them, as victims…
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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You can't pay for wrongs done in the past. Where does the statute of limitations run out on this. What about all those people that got ticketed along our interstates back when the speed limits were reduced to 55. Do they have a case in court for a refund now that the limits are back to 60, 65, and 70? Live in the present, prepare for the future, but LEARN (not earn) from the past. We can't undo what was done, no amount of money will erase that wrong. The dollar figures that could be awarded will only punish those alive today that have to pay it. There would be no sensible way to make such payments, and they would be made to people that suffered nothing from the actions of several generations ago.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Here is another way to put it:

Liberals belief :

Give them a fish – “feeds them for a day and they are dependent on me for fish tomorrow”

Conservative belief :

Teach them to fish – “Feeds them for a lifetime and they are NOT dependant on me and they are self sufficient”
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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Here is the biggest thing that just pissed me off about the whole thing, regardless the liberals using them. The fact if it were to happen you would put civil rights way back, way back past the 60’s as if it never happen.

Do you not think the paying out of reparations to those not deserving (and there not) would NOT divide races more so then ever seen in our lifetimes? If you do not think that will happen then you’re living in a fantasy world.

This is nothing more then another stab to keep races separated by the color of their skin. When in the hell will people see others for WHO they are not what COLOR they are. Liberals time and time again ONLY see people as classes, color, sexual preference, rich, poor, handicapped, too fat, too skinny, too perfect, drink too much, don’t drink enough, don’t do drugs, do drugs, are addicted, have a headache once a month and are handicapped, and the list goes on.

Some like to think of people like me (conservative) as racist because we don’t believe in this victim crap and therefore do not believe in hand-outs. However what I find is racist is for some people to judge another class of people. To judge a class of people and think of them as completely too STUPID to take care of themselves, to NOT have the ability to learn because of their color etc.

Is it racist for me to think it is wrong to teach a homeless man how to “properly search through a trash dumpster” to find the right kind of thrown out food, and to produce a video for that very purpose? Is it mean for me to think what is right is to make the homeless man do something, some forum of work in return for a hot meal and a warm bed?

It was in California about 10 years ago. Some liberal organization produced and put out videos to show the homeless how to dig threw the trash to find found because they thought it was CRUEL to make them work, to have pride in themselves for accomplishing something and in return receive a good hot meal and a warm bed.

The one reason it kind of flopped is that liberal organization “forgot” that the homeless live on the street, have no electricity nor video player or TV to watch the training aid they put together… DOOH
 
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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Probably not the best thread for this question, but it reminds me of something **** Morris said in June. Plus 01 brought up the liberal Vs. Conservative argument again, as he's prone to do.

Morris says the future of the conservative Republican party is, to paraphrase his words, an endangered species.

What are you conservatives going to do when the present racial liberal leaning minorities become the majority in the near future?

The white male conservative, according to him, is a dying breed. It's to the point where he's predicting that if Bush wins reelection, Hillary Clinton is a shoe in for President in 2008. If Bush loses, Hillary will run and win in 2012.

I have to say, Morris' views are plausible, in my opinion. In fact, he convinced me that this is how it's going to play out because of the direction the Republican party is going. He even said, Bush is afraid of the Religious Right conservatives.

I'm not a fan of Morris, but he sure as hell convinced me.
 
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