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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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Going the Magnapack route...

Just ordered a single Magnapack from Performance Peddler.

My plan:

Part 1: Do a muffler swap with the single Magnapack (#14419) and see how I like the sound.

Part 2: If it sounds good and I am good with the sound/drone I will either buy a tip (#35146) and leave it like that (always sort of liked the SI/SO with a slash-cut tip), or take it down to the shop south of where I live and do a SI/DO with 4" Maggie tips (#35117).

As most of you already know, I have been toiling over what direction to go with my exhaust decision. I have gone everywhere from Magnaflow kits, to Flowmaster kits, to Corsa Kits, to just a tip for my stock exhaust, to an X-piped true dual setup. Over the course of the past month, I think I have learned more about automotive exhaust systems than I have in my entire life. My decision to go with the single Magnapack option stems from what I have seen with regards to cost, sound, feedback from actual owners. Thanks to all of you here who have helped out!!

I involved my wife in the decision process since she (and our kids obviously) would be riding in the vehicle. She actually recommended I go with the Magnapack first since it was the cheaper option, stating, if you really like it than you got your new setup for about $100, and if you don't, than you are only about $100 out of pocket. Also, if it does not work out, I can just go with the Corsa #24310 kit.

I am really excited about this choice since I have not really heard a 2010 5.4L with a SI/SO Magnapack. Also, I am in CA so I am unable to do hi-flow cats. The up-side is my truck being a 2010 only has 2 cats, IIRC, and those two are fairly hi-flow as it is I believe. Last but certainly not least, I live in the Central Valley where it is VERY dry. We pretty much get no ice, no snow, we obviously have no need to salt the roads, we don't get much rain, and I park my truck in the garage. This should all attribute to a fairly low chance of rust, lol.

With the cost of the Magnapack + Installation costs, I am looking at about $110-$115 total out the door. Of course, this does not include a tip, but that is no big deal and I could always add it later for pretty cheap if I wanted.

Hope this setup sounds pretty good. I have seen a few trucks around the area that are earlier model years and they sound much quieter than mine. My truck already has a little growl to it, so the Magnapack should be pretty crazy. lol

Target install date is the day after I get my muffler from Performance Peddler. lol

Pics + vids to follow install.

Thanks again for all the help!
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Tip will sound better. Put it on and be done with it.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by avfrog
Tip will sound better. Put it on and be done with it.
I want to see how it sounds first. If it warrants the extra money I will no doubt buy one. If I don't like the sound, than I am going to pull it off and buy a Db Corsa kit and the extra money for the tip would have been wasted.

*EDIT* Since my pipe is 2.75", what tips would I even be able to use? It looks like 99% of the are for everything but this size.
 

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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^ 3 in 3.5-4 out. A shop will swell your tail pipe and ensure a proper weld.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by avfrog
^ 3 in 3.5-4 out. A shop will swell your tail pipe and ensure a proper weld.
Oh, I see. I didn't know they could do that.

How much of a change in sound can one expect from a tip? If it is noticable, I may pick one up...especially if it will show me to hear the "true" sound of the new muffler.

Also, does tip style (rolled edge, slash cut, etc.. etc..) and length affect drone?

Thanks for the help, Avfrog. It is much appreciated!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 06:01 AM
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The cut of the tip(s) does not effect tone, but the outlet diameter and length do. Its vice versa of mufflers. The larger the tip echos the sound further and drone inside increases slightly.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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What is your target install date? I want to make sure I am watching the board. I like your idea, and think this shoud sound great and maintain the low end torque as designed.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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the cut of the tip(s) does not effect tone, but the outlet diameter and length do. Its vice versa of mufflers. The larger the tip echos the sound further and drone inside increases slightly.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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What is your target install date? I want to make sure I am watching the board. I like your idea, and think this shoud sound great and maintain the low end torque as designed.
Tough to say. I have taken pause on the build while I decide exactly what I want to do. I was stoked about my decision but kept an open mind regardig my choice. While the muffler swap is no doubt cheap(er), I have a place South of me that can do a full mandrel bent stainless SI/DO setup for $250 more. While the idea of a quick muffler swap is tempting, a part of me wants to just "go for it" and put in the full SI/DO system. My biggest concern is not being happy with whatever I choose after it is completed. This is the issue my wife has with it as well. She has already told me to do whatever it is I want, but I have to keep in mind I sometimes have a 5 month old and a 3 yr old in the back seat. The issue lies in the fact that a SI/SO will no doubt sound different than a SI/DO setup....so going with the muffler swap first to see if I like it is really somewhat of a moot issue with regards to going SI/DO later. As cheap as the muffler swap is, any wasted money is still wasted money.

Honestly, I would love to just buy the Corsa kit, but the fact that kit is almost $100 more than a Magapack SI/DO and about $50 more than an XR-1 SI/DO is somewhat of an annoyance. My wife thinks I should just get the Corsa kit since "No drone" is a property of the setup. I just want that $500 to be for more than just no drone.

I am so indecisive when it comes to things like this. I feel like I "over-research" everything to the point of reaching a stalemate. A video by 08FX4 with his new 2010 FX4 and his Magnapack SI/DO setup would really help out since I too have a 2010 FX4.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Well, if it helps any, we all have 2010 FX4's waiting for you to lead the way.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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It's a tough decision man. The magnapacks are loud for sure... esp oon 2009+ motors as the manifolds and cats are equivalent to shorty's and hi flows on previous generations. I have a 14" maggie (12198) si/do paired with 94106's and it sure is LOUD on acceleration. Normal driving, not so much. Don't get me wrong, it's loud and people who ride in my truck wonder why I want it louder I would just get it done however. My thing is, if you think it's too loud, you can put some sound deadener in your cab or even just swap out your muffler. Round bodies are loud by nature anyways. I have been considering a pack swap myself or a small xr-1 if I can't track down the muffler I want.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 12:01 AM
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Well, if it helps any, we all have 2010 FX4's waiting for you to lead the way.
Peer pressure!

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It's a tough decision man. The magnapacks are loud for sure... esp oon 2009+ motors as the manifolds and cats are equivalent to shorty's and hi flows on previous generations. I have a 14" maggie (12198) si/do paired with 94106's and it sure is LOUD on acceleration. Normal driving, not so much. Don't get me wrong, it's loud and people who ride in my truck wonder why I want it louder I would just get it done however. My thing is, if you think it's too loud, you can put some sound deadener in your cab or even just swap out your muffler. Round bodies are loud by nature anyways. I have been considering a pack swap myself or a small xr-1 if I can't track down the muffler I want.

Yeah, I heard the 2010's ted to be louder than previous years. Wish there were more vids on youtube of folks with 2009-2010 trucks.

I think my top 4 choices would be (in no particular order):

1. Magnapack SI/DO
2. XR-1 SI/DO
3. Magnaflow 12198 SI/DO
4. Corsa 24310 SI/SO

I have actually seen a few videos with the 12198 and it sounded pretty nice. Here is one on a 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2YpuLpjFRs

The guy who posted the video said he thought it was really loud at first as well. Sounds very clean in the video. Good sound.

I like the Corsa because it sounds like a high-end sports car. The growl is pretty crazy.
 
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Originally Posted by Arklight

I have actually seen a few videos with the 12198 and it sounded pretty nice. Here is one on a 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2YpuLpjFRs

The guy who posted the video said he thought it was really loud at first as well. Sounds very clean in the video. Good sound.
Dang that 14" body sounds damn mean. Probably meaner than how my '04 sounded with stock cats & true dualed 11s!

Originally Posted by Arklight
I like the Corsa because it sounds like a high-end sports car. The growl is pretty crazy.
I lately have found myself believing the same. Used to hate the Corsa sound cause I thought thats all it was, no deep tone, just pure mouth. I actually highly considered DB Series muffler.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 02:38 AM
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Dang that 14" body sounds damn mean. Probably meaner than how my '04 sounded with stock cats & true dualed 11s!



I lately have found myself believing the same. Used to hate the Corsa sound cause I thought thats all it was, no deep tone, just pure mouth. I actually highly considered DB Series muffler.

Some guy passed me in an F150 the other day and his truck had a crazy growl to it. I wasn't sure what exhaust it had on it but it sounded like a Maserati when it flew by. It did not have a choppy or thumping sound to it...it just flat out growled. I wonder if it was a Corsa system.

I spoke with Corsa again the other day (I figured I would call a few different times in case answers changed. lol) and I asked him about the Corsa Sport vs the DB Performance setup and he told me that the Sport has the higher quality SS (304) piping, clamps, etc..but that the muffler was pretty much the same thing. I asked him to elaborate a little on the "pretty much the same thing" comment and he said that although most may not notice it, the DB Performance is actually said to be a little more deeper and aggressive sounding. He also mentioned that the sound has a very clean and crisp growl to it like one would find on a expensive sports car. He followed up with a, "You will not find anything that sounds like this." I told him I did not want to spend $500 on something that sounds the same as stock when I am driving around since I don't plan to drive to work at WOT. He sort of laughed and said. "Oh, you'll hear it alright, but it won't sound annoying. We did not design this to annoy everybody inside, we wanted all the sound outside."

I was really impressed with the representatives product knowledge and clear-cut answers. Each person I spoke to was very professional. There wasn't a time I thought to myself, "who is this joker?". When I asked him why they don't make a Sport version for the later model Fords, he told me that based on market analystics, there just isn't really a market for $1000+ exhaust systems and they wanted to bring their signature tone and sound to the competitive market. Honesty goes a long way with me, and these guys seemed like straight-up folks.

One of the biggest reasons I am considering the Corsa kit, despite it's higher cost than going custom, is because of how they treated me on the phone. I never felt like I was bugging them.

Darren, not sure if you have seen this video, but check it out. It's a DB Performance kit o a 2010 F150. That is some crazy growl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbg-95iZzbw&NR=1
 

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