I have a 2006 SuperCab F150 with the 5.4L V8 engine in it. I have an edge evolution programmer and just installed a Volant Cold Air Intake System on the truck. Something is not right though because the truck is running horribly. It will start up fine and everything but as soon as i get to 2K-3K rpm the truck will sputter and then i will get the Electronic Throttle Control Light come one. My emissions light is also on always now. I'm not sure what could be causing this issue. I've tried resetting the trucks computer by disconnecting the negative terminal for about 10 min but that didn't do anything. All the hoses and everything look and feel tight. The truck does the same thing wether or not the MAF is connected or not.

The only thing that i did that was not in the Volant instructions was disconnect a wiring harness on the drivers side, under the hood, connected to the fender. The wiring harness is still connected with all the wires but i unclipped it from the fender and let it hang so that the volant box would fit in my truck.

Any help would be very nice! Thanks.

 

I would suggest you put the stock intake system back on until you can get a programmer for it...sounds like it could be leaning out...SAVE YOUR ENGINE ! Get that off of there until you can get a custom tune for that CAI

 

Roger that sir!

Mr, didier, sir. Please be advised that the Volant is crap.

Examples - and Mr. russo2, please forgive the search effort, aight? lol

https://www.f150online.com/forums/2718695-post12.html

https://www.f150online.com/forums/1610369-post8.html

https://www.f150online.com/forums/2500665-post10.html

https://www.f150online.com/forums/1606703-post5.html


And... last but definitely the most entertaining. A CLASSIC! ( Sir Birdshot would be proud ): https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...m-cleaner.html

^^^ take the time to read these ..it's worth it.


MGD. The *** who is here to help!

 

The Volant is the best system on the market IMO. It's not for everyone however. You do need a little knowledge for proper operation, with the three valve. I've seen many CAI's, - NONE, built as well as the Volant system. Their box is made of heavy polymer composite, - won't warp or deform and it seals every time.

3 valves may be fine w/3" tube models, but 3.5's are out, without a custom tune. You'll smoke the engine.

 

I too have a volant.
And it sucks!
worst purchase I've ever made.
I also "had" an edge evo.
Although i could never prove it, i had a throttle body burnout(fords terminology). In which i beleive was a direct effect of using edge's canned tunes with an intake.
So i removed the intake had no problems for months, all the while kicking my own *** for buying the intake. Until a few members on here turned me onto Bill @ powerhungryperformance.com. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to push a product on you, nor am i trying to give you a whole sales pitch. But what i found out was that Bill can write custom tunes for the edge evo that will accomodate the volant intake aaaaand create better performance from the edge TOGETHER. Bill also said himself that intakes make little to no performance gains for the amount of money people spend on them.
So my advice ditch the volant intake. Your gonna have to eat the cost. and put what ever money you get from selling the volant into custom tunes. Hopefully you dont need a new throttle body like i did.
Good luck! and let us know your decisions and experiences.
Graham

 

Great info. Into the Favorites folder...

 

Stay outta the lemon iced tea, 'Brew. Yer being dyslexic. Replace 'volant' with 'S&B' and you will then have it right.

"Heavy polymer composite" does you no good if it:

- melts in the underhood environment = TRUE
- lies down above 4,000 rpm (call TP) = TRUE
- Lid deforms under high dynamic pressure delta = TRUE

Yea - more like "heavy BS composte"

Read dem linkies, son. (yep - a LOT older than y'all).

As always - I know you can take it as well as dish it - so no worries

Hmmm... havent seen dat Vo-lant dude fer a spell, eh? Still in 'Remedial Materials Science 101' class, perhaps? Or still reading up on Bernoullli's Principle

MGD

 

Hey, - I've been the only one in the room that new what he was talking about, - more than once. Honest. Not all that afraid to tell it exactly like it is, - out voted or not, I can take it..

 

Hey All,

Thanks for the replies. I'm disappointed that the Volant is so looked down on....especially after spending quite a bit of money on it! So the consensus is that if i run with the Volant CAI then i need a custom tune so that the engine doesn't lean out. Are you talking about a custom tune using the Edge Evo or as in getting a dealership to tune it up to run right? I'd like to actually see what my truck runs like if it had the tune up and the Volant and then make my decision to keep it or not.

If the custom tune can just be done using the Edge Evo would anyone be able to tell me what the settings should be?

Also something to note, i went into my Edge to mess around with it earlier today but it wouldn't let me do any custom settings and said that it wasn't compatabile with my vehicle. This only started happening after i installed the CAI and i believe it is since the Electronic Throttle Control warning light is on and that the "Limp Home" mode is tripped. Anyway to get past all this? Thanks.

 

You really need to quit messing with that intake or you are going to do some serious damage to your truck. To run that intake, you need custom tunes, not an Edge with custom settings. The ONLY way you can get a custom tune into an Edge is send to PHP to be converted to a Gryphon. A dealer can't do anything to an Edge. The Edge clearly states that it's canned tunes are for a stock intake only.

If I were you, I would put the stock intake on and disconnect the battery for about 30 minutes and see if the codes clear and reset. If they don't then I would return the truck to the stock tune, remove the Edge and get the truck to the dealer. The Edge does not cause the problem you are haiving, but an aftermarket intake can unless it has a custom tune.

 

To the OP, you really should listen to what MGD (who, as always has a wealth of information) and Bluejay are tellin' ya. Unless you are going to spend more $$$$ on some custom tunes, and I'm not talking about a dealership tuning it for you, you should take the Volant off IMMEDIATELY, it will only do more harm and absolutely no good for your engine. Now, that being said, I am presently running a Volant cai (I unfortunately drank the koolaid) on my truck, which has a 178,000 miles on it, and have been for a little over 3 years and 110,000 miles, but I also purchased a custom tuned Xcal tuner from Troyer Performance at the time I installed it, and all has been fine. That is the only way you will be able to use that cai on your truck without possibly trashing the engine. I first put a K&N intake on it and was not happy at all with the results, and then put the Volant on which of course gave me the dreaded lean condition and I immediately removed it and purchased the custom tuner to go with it, and have been happy with how the truck has performed ever since. I have been tossing around the thought of putting an S&B or even an AF1 on it, but that would require more $$$$ and more custom tunes and more $$$$ and ..... you get the picture, so who knows. I am a dumba** when it comes to this stuff, so much so I have actually trashed MGD on here in the past, to which I can only apologize for :o, I haaaave seen the light (sort of), so you should listen to what these guys are telling you, they can mostly help you, not hurt you.

 

We all can't be wrong. Which Volant did you purchase ? The 3.5 I expect. Better re-install the factory set up for now.

Don't forget to re-boot.

 

putting the stock back on today and putting the Volant on Craigslist. Very depressing, lesson learned i guess. Shotgunz i see you recommed the AirForce1 does everyone else agree that would be the intake i should get? How does the AirRaid compare? My little brother has one of those on his 2004 F150 and it sounds great and added alot of horsepower to his truck. Thanks for the help guys.

 

Actually I recommend you save your money for a programmer with custom tunes and the Gotts mod.

 

What's the difference? You guys called what my Edge Evo can do as canned tunes. I can go in and make custom changes myself as in the shifting points, idle rpm, etc. Does that make it a custom tune or is that still considered a canned tune.