I got the 50 series catback Force II. Is it tough to install youself?

 

Did you get the 50 Delta, HD or SUV muffler? Can you let me know how you like the sound? I'm thinking about the Delta myself...hoping it has that deep sound, but not too (at all?) noticable at highway speed.

 

I'll let you know. I should have it on this weekend. I have to look at the specs I ordered, I didn't pay that much attention to it to be honest. The part number from Flowmaster is 17222. Its the entire cat back kit. I was jumbling a lot on whether to just buy the whole thing like that and use the clamps, or go to a muffler shop and have them weld it all together. I just came to the conclusion after asking several people I know that it didn't matter all that much either way.

 

Trust me guys go with the 40 series

 

I went back and looked at the specs, its the 50 series suv/performance muffler. From the .wav files Flowmaster has on their site, the Delta is a slighty more agressive sound than the suv/performance muffler.

I went with the 50 over the 40 because I didn't want it to be that loud. I want that "Flowmaster sound", but I don't want to get a headache on the highway. The 50 is a little less agressive, but still sounds pretty wicked.

 

If you got a headache from my 40 on the highway, you don't need to be riding in a vehicle. The only time you hear it at highway speeds is on acceleration. I love the 40.

 

I guess highway was a bad choice of words. I just don't want it to be too loud is all, and listening to the recordings of both I just liked the slightly more muffled sound of the 50.

On your 40 though, do you notice any of this torque reduction I'm reading about here?

By the way....did anyone install it themselves? Is it a tough, time consuming job?

 

Back to your original question. I tried to install my 40 series on a 2004 and it was relatively easy. I say relatively because one of the brackets I got didnt fit my truck year. I just took it to a local place and for 80 bucks the welded the whole thing on for me and made a custom bracket for the truck

 

I had twin 40's running on dual 3 inch exhaust when I first built mine. My wifes daily driver, so I told her I'd quiet it down a bit. CHanged it over to 50 series. With dual 3 inch pipe, it doesn't matter which flowmaster you have, they all sound like 40 series

 

Ok so here goes.....

Installation: Its super easy to put the whole kit on, only took about an hour and half.

Here's the catch. Getting the stock exhaust off took me nearly 6 hours, a entire bottle of MAPP gas, and 3 broken pry bars to get off. The pipe connecting the stock muffler to the cat was crimped so hard at the factory, there was actually a half inch ring dented in both pipes. The instructions that come with the Flowmaster say that particular pipe may need to be heated to get off, ha! I had to just about melt the thing, and beat on it for 4 hours just to get it to budge.

At any rate, its on, it sounds great (not too loud, not too soft), and I haven't noticed any torque loss. My ASE mechanic buddy (that helped me with this beast of a job) said it should take a couple days of driving for the computer to register the new air flow, and then I should start noticing subtle gains.

 

I just put on a cat-back Gibon exhaust yesterday and I am very familair with the flowmaster as well. Trust me the hardest part was the removal of the stock system. The installation was a piece of cake, better with two people though for sure.

 

Sawzalling the old system out probably will take you a good 30 - 60 minutes, then installation of the new pipes around the same time, going easy on it that is, putting it all together a b & c maybe 20 mins

 

I would have just cut it off, but it was the extension pipe that was stuck (crimped), and I had to reuse that pipe. If I hadn't had somewhere I had to be in the morning, and my wife's car was in getting new tires put on it, I would have just gone to Ford and bought a new one haha.

 

Sorry, I have overlooked your question. I bought the muffler at a muffler shop and had it installed there SIDO, for $225. They did a nice job. Yes, I think I can tell a loss of torque but I don't tow, mostly mixed city and highway driving, so really don't miss it. Since i added the Edge tuner, I REALLY don't miss it.