Crank no start
Crank no start
2002 f150. Love my truck. Got it new with 30 miles on the odometer. It’s been a great truck. Only thing I haven’t done myself having transmission rebuilt at around 250,000 or so. Recently...started by changing water pump and fan clutch assy. While in that,my attention was drawn to throttle body. Decided to clean it.
During that process one of three PCV connections (not 1 going behind IAC) was blocked completely. Replaced entire t. body assy. with one pulled from salvage yard. Long story short, after T.b. swap I got a crank no start for several days with no real indication of why it finally began starting. A month or so later, I got an idea about where a pain in my butt coolant leak that mainly showed by not holding a vacuum on coolant system. That being the intake manifold plenum on the coolant passage. Back to the salvage yard for an intake manifold. Replaced it, all COP’s, spark plugs, gaskets etc. That was 4-5 weeks ago and ever since it’s Crank/no start. I’ve done lots of testing, bought many tools. This is what I know-no spark at all, only 1 initial pulse on f. injectors (all 8) when cranking. Fuel pump works. Replaced CKP with no change. I feel like it’s an electrical issue in the CKP circuit. Can anyone tell me what voltage should be produced at harness connector. Also,CKP sensor wires (2) on my sensor, are shielded). How does this impact typical circuit tests?
During that process one of three PCV connections (not 1 going behind IAC) was blocked completely. Replaced entire t. body assy. with one pulled from salvage yard. Long story short, after T.b. swap I got a crank no start for several days with no real indication of why it finally began starting. A month or so later, I got an idea about where a pain in my butt coolant leak that mainly showed by not holding a vacuum on coolant system. That being the intake manifold plenum on the coolant passage. Back to the salvage yard for an intake manifold. Replaced it, all COP’s, spark plugs, gaskets etc. That was 4-5 weeks ago and ever since it’s Crank/no start. I’ve done lots of testing, bought many tools. This is what I know-no spark at all, only 1 initial pulse on f. injectors (all 8) when cranking. Fuel pump works. Replaced CKP with no change. I feel like it’s an electrical issue in the CKP circuit. Can anyone tell me what voltage should be produced at harness connector. Also,CKP sensor wires (2) on my sensor, are shielded). How does this impact typical circuit tests?
Originally Posted by Roadie;[url=tel:5269300
5269300[/url]]PCM relay? What codes?
PCM relay bench tests fine. Relay “socket “ at PDB tests as follows...pin 30-hot. Pin 87-grd. Pin 85-grd. Pin 86-nothing. This was KOEO.
When my 02 had an intermittent crank/no start problem, I got the code that is triggered when the codes are deleted, the battery is disconnected, or power is lost to the PCM. I had not deleted codes nor disconnected the battery so I replaced the PCM relay and haven't had the problem since then. The relay was only about $8.
I have tried swapping, however I only have 1 identical relay in use, the fuel pump relay. I’ve been told swapping these 2 won’t necessarily be a good test as they work together. I’ve got 3 that are identical to those that came out of an Explorer, don’t know what their status is other than all pass bench test and all work as far as priming fuel pump.
Originally Posted by peteywheat;[url=tel:5269371
5269371[/url]]I have tried swapping, however I only have 1 identical relay in use, the fuel pump relay. I’ve been told swapping these 2 won’t necessarily be a good test as they work together. I’ve got 3 that are identical to those that came out of an Explorer, don’t know what their status is other than all pass bench test and all work as far as priming fuel pump.



