Correct Voltages
Correct Voltages
I'm sure someone can answer this rather quickly...
Engine off battery voltage: 11.8-12.3 volts.
Engine on, idle battery voltage: 14.2-14.3 volts.
Engine on, cruise at 1800 rpms battery voltage: 13.9-14.3 volts.
Is there anything wrong with those readings?
Engine off battery voltage: 11.8-12.3 volts.
Engine on, idle battery voltage: 14.2-14.3 volts.
Engine on, cruise at 1800 rpms battery voltage: 13.9-14.3 volts.
Is there anything wrong with those readings?
Battery voltage seems low with engine off (and, I assume, minimum load). I'm used to seeing about 12.4 volts.
Your idle voltage is a tad higher than I see. I seem to recall voltages in the 13.9-14.0 range, but I have DRLs, so they're taking a bit of current.
And at cruise, when I'm not pulling a trailer, my voltages are pretty similar to yours. I usually see about 14.1-14.2 when I'm not pulling a trailer (and running it's refrigerator).
- Jack
Your idle voltage is a tad higher than I see. I seem to recall voltages in the 13.9-14.0 range, but I have DRLs, so they're taking a bit of current.
And at cruise, when I'm not pulling a trailer, my voltages are pretty similar to yours. I usually see about 14.1-14.2 when I'm not pulling a trailer (and running it's refrigerator).
- Jack
The battery is around the 3 year mark from when the truck was built, and god knows how old that battery was sitting on the shelf at the warehouse.
Think I should get a Yellowtop?
Think I should get a Yellowtop?
So does anyone who reads the date code melted into the battery case. Take a look & then call the dealership parts department.Hell no. You'd be better off with a bunch of D-cells. The best battery is a top-level normal lead/acid from Johnson Controls like a MotorCraft, Interstate, or Sears DieHard Gold.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.
Last edited by Steve83; Jul 8, 2009 at 12:33 AM.
I have to agree with Steve on this. I think the "Yellowtop" is a bit overrated. It costs about twice what a "good" standard battery costs and has no better warranty.
I have Costco Kirkland batteries in both my vehicles. They have 100 month warranties and free replacement in the first three years. They DO NOT question you if you bring one in for a warranty replacement. No tests - they just give you a refund.
- Jack
I have Costco Kirkland batteries in both my vehicles. They have 100 month warranties and free replacement in the first three years. They DO NOT question you if you bring one in for a warranty replacement. No tests - they just give you a refund.
- Jack
So does anyone who reads the date code melted into the battery case. Take a look & then call the dealership parts department.Hell no. You'd be better off with a bunch of D-cells. The best battery is a top-level normal lead/acid from Johnson Controls like a MotorCraft, Interstate, or Sears DieHard Gold.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.
The EON are good, but if the EOF is what it normally is, that's not good. A battery fully charged is technically 2.17 volts per cell, so that's 13.02 V fully charged. That's what my smart charger will push it to when it shuts off. Problem is it won't hold that charge. It will settle at about 12.6 to 12.8 in a good strong battery. As it ages, it gradually loses the ability to hold the voltage. A battery that is reading 12.2-12.3 will normally function just fine, you won't know that it's getting weak, but that is technically about 50% charge. The battery in my '04 F-150 will hold about 12.2- maybe 12.3 now and I am surprised it has lasted this long. When I put the smart charger on, it will normally push it to over 13.0 but within a day or so, it is back to the 12.2-12.3. I wouldn't waste my money on a yellow top. There used to be some really good batteries on the market, but they are all pretty mediocre any more. I load test my batteries about every 2-3 mo. and you can see their decline and replace before they leave you stranded.
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I have to agree with Steve on this. I think the "Yellowtop" is a bit overrated. It costs about twice what a "good" standard battery costs and has no better warranty.
I have Costco Kirkland batteries in both my vehicles. They have 100 month warranties and free replacement in the first three years. They DO NOT question you if you bring one in for a warranty replacement. No tests - they just give you a refund.
- Jack
I have Costco Kirkland batteries in both my vehicles. They have 100 month warranties and free replacement in the first three years. They DO NOT question you if you bring one in for a warranty replacement. No tests - they just give you a refund.
- Jack
Last edited by code58; Jul 9, 2009 at 04:03 AM.
So does anyone who reads the date code melted into the battery case. Take a look & then call the dealership parts department.Hell no. You'd be better off with a bunch of D-cells. The best battery is a top-level normal lead/acid from Johnson Controls like a MotorCraft, Interstate, or Sears DieHard Gold.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.
AGMs are crap unless you plan to mount your battery upside down by drilling a hole straight thru it. In THAT case, definitely get an AGM.
But you don't need a new battery until yours fails according to a MidTronics pulse tester, like all dealerships (of all makes) are required to use for warranty work. They're the industry-standard for battery testing, so most pro shops have at least one.

The EON are good, but if the EOF is what it normally is, that's not good. A battery fully charged is technically 2.17 volts per cell, so that's 13.02 V fully charged. That's what my smart charger will push it to when it shuts off. Problem is it won't hold that charge. It will settle at about 12.6 to 12.8 in a good strong battery. As it ages, it gradually loses the ability to hold the voltage. A battery that is reading 12.2-12.3 will normally function just fine, you won't know that it's getting weak, but that is technically about 50% charge. The battery in my '04 F-150 will hold about 12.2- maybe 12.3 now and I am surprised it has lasted this long. When I put the smart charger on, it will normally push it to over 13.0 but within a day or so, it is back to the 12.2-12.3. I wouldn't waste my money on a yellow top. There used to be some really good batteries on the market, but they are all pretty mediocre any more. I load test my batteries about every 2-3 mo. and you can see their decline and replace before they leave you stranded.

I found a nifty charging guide to batteries... My F150's battery falls into the 40% charge range... In fact, I remember a couple weeks ago it would stay around the 12.5-12.4 volt range... it's going bad for sure.
Last week I jump started a 2002 Explorer with 120,000 miles on it still rocking the original battery
Patman- notice what year you said the Exploder is? The Motorcraft batteries were still made by GNB (Gould National Battery) then. They sold out to Excide in about '03. That's the reason you see a lot of people saying they got 8-9 years out of the original battery on their '97, '98, '99 Ford. GNB was 1 of the best batteries money could buy. I doubt that there's any way he's gonna get much more than half that on the replacement battery, no matter what he buys. There just aren't much in the way of good batteries any more. Don't tell me how good it starts, load test it and then tell me what the figures are. That's the only true test of a battery and you'd be surprised that my '04 F-150 started great when I tested the battery after I hadn't driven it for a while and then was working inside with the doors open and then load tested it at about 11.8 V. Technically virtually dead!
Last edited by code58; Jul 9, 2009 at 04:34 AM.
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So to paraphrase you: "Have a good life, Roger."





