Chose wrong hot wire for Ait Lift air compressor hookup?

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Chose wrong hot wire for Air Lift air compressor hookup?

I installed an Air Lift compressor over the weekend. I was looking for a wire that was only hot with the key on, and when I pulled up the cover over the driver's side wire channel, I found a wire that is yellow with a green stripe that is about 10 gage and came on with the key. I tapped in to that and all was well until this morning...now the circuit is dead and I am not sure what that wire was for. Everything seems to work (windows, lights, etc.) except the compressor and likely whatever that wire feed is for. If anyone can help me to first identify what the yellow w/green stripe wire is for AND can tell me a better wire to tap into for the compressor hookup, I would appreciate it.
 

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Don't know what the wire is for but most likely over loaded it and blew fuse. Look in owners manual. It should identify circuits in fuse box.

Something like that should have a dedicated circuit with fuse protection. That way you do not have these types of problems. I would say the air lift compressor probably pulls 10-15 amps easily. Add that to an existing circuit and poof!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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FM, the circuit is fused (15a inline comes with the compressor) but they (Air Lift) say on their instructions to have the compressor tied to an "ignition on" circuit to prevent the compressor from kicking on all the time from the low pressure switch. I have open circuits on the fuse panel I could have tied into but thought I was doing the right thing with the circuit I found. Any suggestions how to tie this in tie this in to a circuit that comes on with ignition? Or are you recommending that I put in a separate circuit and switch it myself?

And thanks for the reply....I SHOULD have known better than to grab that wire without tracking it first!
 

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Thats good that the compressor has a fused power line. If the instructions told you to tie into another circuit...my bad. BUT...I am no professional BUT I believe especially since it has a fused power line to create a new circuit. In this case you DO want the circuit to be hot ONLY when key is on due to the compressor cycling.

Find a circuit that is not super critical like wipers, radio, power seats, etc. That way if something ever does happen you won't be without something you need.

Maybe some others can chime in with ideas. You are on the right track just finding a non critical circuit for tie in.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Okay, so I figured it out...by dumb luck after looking through another forum post! The wire I tapped into is the window lockout power. When the windows are "locked" the compressor is off...when I unlock the windows, voila! Power is on. Now that I have that figured out...I need to find another circuit to tap off of that is turned on by the ignition switch. Any advice would be (gratefully) appreciated!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jimireb
FM, the circuit is fused (15a inline comes with the compressor) but they (Air Lift) say on their instructions to have the compressor tied to an "ignition on" circuit to prevent the compressor from kicking on all the time from the low pressure switch. I have open circuits on the fuse panel I could have tied into but thought I was doing the right thing with the circuit I found. Any suggestions how to tie this in tie this in to a circuit that comes on with ignition? Or are you recommending that I put in a separate circuit and switch it myself?

And thanks for the reply....I SHOULD have known better than to grab that wire without tracking it first!
If you run their fused power line directly from the battery and through a relay, then use the wire that is hot with ignition as the switch, you'll have an isolated power circuit that is only active when the ignition is on.



87 - 12V -> Relay to Air Lift 12V
87a - empty -> Don't Use
30 - 12V -> Battery to Relay
86 - Gnd -> Relay to Ground
85 - 12V -> Ignition-On Wire to Relay

With this set up, you won't be over taxing stock fuses (the Air Lift will be powered directly from the battery and have its own fuse) and you'll still have the functionality when the key is in the ON position.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mtylerb
If you run their fused power line directly from the battery and through a relay, then use the wire that is hot with ignition as the switch, you'll have an isolated power circuit that is only active when the ignition is on.



87 - 12V -> Relay to Air Lift 12V
87a - empty -> Don't Use
30 - 12V -> Battery to Relay
86 - Gnd -> Relay to Ground
85 - 12V -> Ignition-On Wire to Relay

With this set up, you won't be over taxing stock fuses (the Air Lift will be powered directly from the battery and have its own fuse) and you'll still have the functionality when the key is in the ON position.
Thats what I was leaning toward. A dedicated circuit with relay so it has its own dedicated circuit and nothing else is rigged or compromised. When the compressor needs to cycle on the relay will close and make the connection thus cycling your compressor. Otherwise it will remain off even though it is HOT all the time.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Thanks again for the replies. I assume then that this relay is something I will just pick up at my local auto parts store and wire up. Safe to say I have already found a wire that I can use for the "Ignition-On" wire
 

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Just tell them you want a 12V relay. Not sure if there is an amp rating on them. Whatever your compressor motor amps are rated at or the fuse amperage is what you want. Tell them what you are doing they will know what you need for a relay.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Will do. Thanks again for the replies, very much appreciated!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Sorry to wake this from the dead, however I am wiring in an Air Lift compressor this weekend and will be running a relay as described in this post. My question is, per this schematic, where does the wire from the panel switch go? This looks like it allows the low pressure switch to automatically come on when the key is switched on. I need to know how to wire in the panel power wire to add air when additional pressure is needed.

I'm tracking how to do everything else.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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No need to apologize for doing a search, and adding to the correct thread, that is why threads are kept and the search available

Here is a generic relay diagram



In your case, you can use an add-a-fuse in the radio slot to trigger the relay coil. The added circuit only needs to be a 1A fuse, as it is only the coil load.

The connection to the battery from terminal #30 is fused for the load on the compressor and 87 goes to the compressor.

That is what I read for the description, not sure if I got it quite right ( is the relay for a low AMP circuit for the switch, and then there is another high AMP circuit ?? )
 
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mtylerb
If you run their fused power line directly from the battery and through a relay, then use the wire that is hot with ignition as the switch, you'll have an isolated power circuit that is only active when the ignition is on.



87 - 12V -> Relay to Air Lift 12V
87a - empty -> Don't Use
30 - 12V -> Battery to Relay
86 - Gnd -> Relay to Ground
85 - 12V -> Ignition-On Wire to Relay

With this set up, you won't be over taxing stock fuses (the Air Lift will be powered directly from the battery and have its own fuse) and you'll still have the functionality when the key is in the ON position.
As I understand it per this post, the relay is ran from the battery to the relay, then relay to the compressor. This all makes sence to me. What I don't see taken into account is the panel switch to activate the air compressor to add air. As I understand the schematic it is referring to the low pressure switch that kicks on automatically to maintain the min. pressure in the air bags. I want to know where the panel switch comes into the loop and how it should be routed.
 

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Is the ignition on wire ran to the fuse box (key on hot) and then a wire from ignition on wire (key on hot) to the 85 side of the relay?
 

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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In the diagram above ( that I posted ) the add-a-fuse ( i.e. for the radio ) is run to the switch. The switch to terminal #85 on the relay.

This configuration the switch can only turn on the compressor when the radio can work ( accessory or run position on the key or until the door is opened for the delay ).

Make sure you install the add-a-fuse the correct direction, use a meter to find which side of the fuse is hot and which side is to the device. Pull the fuse and turn on the key, which ever side has power is to the ign source, the dead side is towards the radio.


 
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