Gryphon Help - Codes P0606 & P2106

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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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I just got done put tow mirrors on my truck this morning and when I got done I drove back to the house and when I turned my truck off the Gryphon didn't turn off like it normally does. So I unplugged the tuner and plugged it back in and noticed in the upper right corner it had a 0 where I thought it use to be a 3 (for my custom tune). I then rebooted the Gryphon back to level 3 which is my 87 perf tune. Next I started the truck and noticed the little wrench light was on the dash so I checked the codes and said I had two codes:
P0606 - Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Processor
P2106 - Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) System - Forced Limited Power

I turned the truck off and started it again and it now shows the wrench and the check engine light came on. The truck seems to be running fine but I want to get it straightened out and I know Bill and Cory aren't available at PHP till Monday. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Truck Won't Start - Need Help!

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When I pulled into my driveway earlier today and turned the truck off my Gryphon stayed on, which is not normal, so I unplugged it. Plugged it back in and rebooted my custom tune and the wrench light and check engine came on so I looked at the codes and I had P0606 & P2106 showing up:

P0606 - Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Processor
P2106 - Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) System - Forced Limited Power

Went in the house and read into the issue with these codes and decided that I was going to return it to stock and take it to the dealership and have them check things out. I started the truck and moved it out of the driveway and started and ran fine. I cleared the trouble codes and the P2106 cleared but P0606 did not. So returned the programmer to stock and the trouble lights went off on the dash completely but I went to start it and won't even attempt to turn over. All it does show CHECK GAUGES on the message center and I can here a little clicking from the passenger side (sounds like fuse box area). The gauges on the dash do not like abnormal in any way.
I have a feeling my PCM is shot and I have no idea why...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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I forgot to mention that the red Anti-Theft on the top on the dash blinks rapidly when I turn the key to the ON position. I've done quite a bit of reading and searching and can't seem to find any solutions.

*I also tried a different key and it didn't work either.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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After a lot more research and reading I have a strong indication that it is the PATS.

"From time to time, a programmer will trigger the Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) on an Excursion, Lightning, Mustang, or other PATS equipped vehicles. This is caused by a loss of communication between the PCM and the PATS module which triggers the PATS module to go into "THEFT" mode and disable the PCM for a period of time. Some vehicles are more sensitive than others in regards to what triggers the PATS system with some vehicles triggering it during some sessions and not in others.

In the event that this does occur and the "THEFT" light is flashing, use the following procedure to restore vehicle functionality.
Turn the key to the "ON" position, but do not attempt to start the vehicle.
The "THEFT" light will begin flashing rapidly (twice a second). After about 60 seconds, the "THEFT" light will stop flashing rapidly and begin a sequence of slow flashes (usually 1 blink, followed by 6 blinks).
Turn the key to the "OFF" position and completely remove the key from the ignition and hold at least two feet away from the steering column for 30 seconds.
Insert the key and turn to the "ON" position. Wait for the normal engine checking procedure to take place. The "THEFT" light should no longer be flashing. At this point you should be able to start the vehicle.
If, after completing the above reset procedure, your vehicle still won’t start and the theft light is blinking rapidly, check to ensure that the PCM is not disabled by going to the Diagnostic Menu of your programmer and then checking for any DTCs.

If the PCM is not disabled, it should respond with a P1260 DTC (Theft Detected / Vehicle Immobilized) along with any other possible DTCs that may be stored. If this is the case, turn the key to the "OFF" position and remove the ground (-) battery cable (from both batteries if your vehicle is equipped with two) for a period of ONE HOUR to allow the theft codes to clear. Re-attach the cables and attempt to start the vehicle.

If the PCM is disabled and the programmer is not able to ready any DTCs or other data from the PCM, you may try restoring the vehicle back to the original stock calibration. If this still doesn't work, you'll need to contact your programmer vendor for further assistance in troubleshooting the reason for the no-start."

The first procedure didn't work, the light never quit blinking fast. So I disconnected the battery and now I have to wait a little while longer.

I will post updates...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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Hope you got it figured out and it's an easy fix.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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I reconnected the battery in hopes of resetting the system and I'm still getting the same symptoms. I'm 99% sure it's the PATS but there is nothing more I can do until Monday.

Next step, talk to Bill at PHP and see if he can possibly help me out. If that doesn't work I'll be towing it to the Ford dealership in town and have them disable it or figure out the problem.

On a positive note, I installed a set of tow mirrors this morning before all this mess and they look real good
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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If all else fails, disconnect the battery and leave it totally disconnected for a while. After disconnecting, turn on headlights to help drain any possible residual power. Reconnect an hour later and try again.... Use the tuner to clear codes.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Bummer! Really bad if it was 1200 miles from home and done that!

Originally Posted by edwards1687
After a lot more research and reading I have a strong indication that it is the PATS.

"From time to time, a programmer will trigger the Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) on an Excursion, Lightning, Mustang, or other PATS equipped vehicles. This is caused by a loss of communication between the PCM and the PATS module which triggers the PATS module to go into "THEFT" mode and disable the PCM for a period of time. .... etc ........ If this still doesn't work, you'll need to contact your programmer vendor for further assistance in troubleshooting the reason for the no-start."
The first procedure didn't work, the light never quit blinking fast. So I disconnected the battery and now I have to wait a little while longer.

I will post updates...
Where did you paste and copy all that from? Was it Ford literature or from a Tuner? I ask because I just never heard of that before.

Hope it starts soon!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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Bummer! Really bad if it was 1200 miles from home and done that!



Where did you paste and copy all that from? Was it Ford literature or from a Tuner? I ask because I just never heard of that before.

Hope it starts soon!
It's information from the PHP forums that I found in this thread

I sent an email out to Bill and posted in the Emergency section on the PHP forums. Hopefully I'll get everything straightened out soon
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 12:53 AM
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Two threads merged. One thread per subject, please, as it causes confusion for posters. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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Update

I got a phone call from Bill at PHP tonight and after rewriting a few different programs to try and reboot my PCM, we still couldn't get it running again. Some how when I programmed and returned my Gryphon back to stock it erased some memory from the PCM; so much that it couldn't be restored by writing a new program.

Bill gave me the option where he could basically rewrite my PCM's memory so that I can get my truck running and to the dealership; but I would still need to have them reflash my PCM. Or I can send him my PCM and programmer and have him rewrite and check everything where he could hook it up to his equipment at the shop.

I'm sending my PCM & Gryphon off to PHP tomorrow and should have it back by Friday. Thankfully I don't need to drive my truck any time soon and I can wait. I would like to say that Bill was more than helpful to try everything possible to get me back up and running. I am very pleased with his customer service to take time to call me on a Sunday night and talk on the phone for 45 minutes.

I will keep you all informed once I get it back and running
 
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