i picked up a edge cs for my 2000 f250 super duty 5.4L on the weekend and when i program it into power level 2 (tow) it doesnt seem to make any difference at all.

i also programmed the tire size in at the programming stage to 35" but it still is 12 (km/h) out. it is reading the same as the speedo gauge just 12 km/h off of gps. i made sure that the 4:10 gearing is selected as well. and when i bumped my shift pressure up to 8 then 10 then 12 then 15 i have notice no improvement in shifting.

right now i feel like i have a glorified tach. has any one else had this kinda issue? it goes thru the whole programming with no errors and says program completed. but doesnt seem to do a thing?

i called edge and they want me to hook it up to the computer and send them the files, which i will do tonight.

 

To actually program your PCM, you go through a series of key off/key on steps once you have finished entering any "custom" values you need to enter. In some cases, the key will already be in the desired position and you simply have to push the "Enter" button. Did your unit take you through those steps and, did it tell you it was saving the "Stock ECM" before it told you it was actually programming your PCM? And, did the lights on your truck "blink" when programming was complete? (Mine always do).

- Jack

 

Did you get the programmer for a year 2000? Or did you buy the 2004-2008 model on accident?

 

It's a CS - there is only one model for Ford Gas ...

http://www.edgeproducts.com/product....olution+CS+Gas

MGD

 

 

yes it did say it saved the stock ecm, and it does ask me to go thru the key off and on steps. i dont know if the lights flash but once the programming is so called completed i hear a click under the dash.

i have gone back and forth between stock and tow multiple times and neither the speedo and or tranny shifting seem to change at all.

and as stated above, the new edge evo cs works for all years.

 

^^ have you tried level 2 or 3? Do you see a difference then? Are you clicking okay? I know on the Evolution if you hit menu to back up it doesnt change that setting. You have to click okay,

 

well on mine i dont have 2 or 3. they changed it to stock,transmission only, tow, extreme.

and i have 87 octane in there now so i dont want to put it to extreme. but i could try and put it in transmission only mode and see if it makes a change.

i also found it weird that all the setting were stock in the tow mode. no increase in tranny shift pressure or shift points.

and i have been sure to press enter to continue with saving and not menu to go back with no change.

 

OK, it really sounds like the programmer IS doing something to your PCM. The "click" you said happened is normal when the programming is complete.

Your truck may well behave differently than mine. I noticed a much "quicker" shift feeling when passing. As far as power from a standing start, I don't do that kind of thing but the passing power, which I wanted was much better.

In programming, it is best to "ignore" the custom options choice when first programming your PCM from its stock tune. If you DID apply custom options on the first go-around, just reprogram back to stock, then program to a higher level, such as "tow" and bypass the custom options. THEN, reprogram to that same advanced level but this time apply custom option settings.

As far as your Tire Size - if you set that in the "Options" menu, it will not account for "squish". But, in the Custom Options menu if you enter a value of 34.0" or 33.9" (for tire diameter), it should make your speedo read about right (about 2 mph fast at 70 mph).

The "stock" settings you are seeing in the tow mode are really simply "baseline" values for the canned tune you are using, in most cases. You can add or subtract from those.

I know, it's confusing and part of the problem is the "naming" of values. These names can be ambiguous.

And, don't hesitate to talk to Edge Tech Support if you are not happy with what you are getting.

- Jack

 

The very first tune i did i just put it into tow mode with no custom programming. and still didnt seem to be any different then when doing the custom tune at the same time as the level change.

i did put the tire size in as 35 to start with and then researched that the exact tire measurement was needed. so i entered 34 in a different tune. still no change in the speedo. i have gps tested it with 35,34, and even the 30.9 tire size with redoing the tune in between tests. and the speedo/edge unit always read 12 km/h out vs the gps. which leads me to think something isnt taking?

also i bumped the shift pressure up to the max which i believe is +25(just to see) and test drove it with no noticed improvement. then went back to a stock tune with stock values and test drove it and no diffence again. that sluggish change between 1st and 2nd is there no matter what mode/values it is in.

im not expecting to notice a heap of performance improvement but i should beable to notice somewhat of a change???

any way i hooked my unit to the fusion software and it downloaded it to the technician so hopefully in a day or two i will have some sort of an answer cause right now i have a $500 tach. lol.

thanks for the replys/input.

 

You're very welcome. It DOES sound like the programmer is having "no" effect, and I cannot begin to imagine why. From your posts, you sound like you are doing things right, so I'm at a total loss.

The files you sent Edge should help them clear this up though.

- Jack

 

it sounds like it could be a few days before i hear back from them, so i was thinking i am going to do one more thing to check to see if it is doing anything at all.

i am going to bump the idle rpm up and see if that changes.

 

so i turned up the idle rpm setting as high as it would go to 300. and it idled at the exact same rpm. apox 690. now by turning that up to 300 it should be idling at 990? correct?