Sure, if you can get back home for $100 or less.

 

let the convincing of the girlfriend that we need to visit georgia begin...

 

Bill is going to have to write one hella good economy tune!

???????

 

I can see why you all have money problems.

 

aww mannnn.... my Expy is still registered in GA, but I wish I could make the 2,800 mile trip again to see you guys & those darn crazy cats.

congrats on the new toy



Frank

 

I wonder just how many people will show up, and how many will take you up on the return trip fuel.

I want to in a way, but i would also feel guilty for taking any money after eating your food and drinking your drinks AND getting free dyno runs.

Thats one hell of a customer service right there though, and let me tell you, good C.S makes or brakes a company.

in fact when i was trying out netflix last night, the C.S guy was so nice to me over the phone I went on a paid for a month and skipped the free trial!

He even told me they where never allowed to disconnect no matter what was said to them, and made a extra effort to call my house phone from there company line because I had poor cell service, yet no long distance or 800 number dialing on my land line.

Turns out, netflix is the shiz!

Sorry I went off topic.

 

Question...

If I show up, will the new tune be from scratch? Ie, Not reading my tune in the PCM and then try to improve what I've already done, but one written from scratch. My curiosity is whether or not his from scratch tune will beat what I've already done.

 

Can you please do this on the weekend of the 9th or 23rd? I'm a shift worker and those are the two weekends i'm off in October. I would definately come if it's on one of those weekends. I still have my truck but is it possible for Bill to dyno my mustang? I've been wanting to get a baseline run done and this would be a good opportunity for one. About how far are you guy's from 71282? Thanks!

 

Using Google maps and your zip to Winder, GA its approx 500 miles.

 

We decided about 3AM that Dyno Day is going to be on October 23.

 

curious on this as well

 

Why worry? Programming a microprocessor is not like doing a home improvement, where the original, less than desirable, substructure is left in place. What matters is the final value at each address line in the EPROM. If the ideal value is 4A7EFF08, assuming a 32-bit code space, it doesn't matter what was there before.

In microprocessor coding, you should be able to get to that final ideal result no matter how you start and, with equal effort. You don't "cover up" or "build" on anything.

I'm not trying to start a war here, but I'm puzzled at the question.

- Jack

 

The question is because the code in the PCM is part mine, part someone else's and I cannot allow another tuner to access it.

As to your analogy.... The majority of values in the PCM in a custom tune are still the original values and the custom tune is built upon the original -- even in a "from scratch" tune. There are thousands of values in the tables and at most a few hundred are changed. Even if they switch to a different PCM code (common if the tuner is highly familiar with the platform and knows which code is best for particular applications) they still build the tune from what was already in that code (or overlay values from another code).

Not all tuners change the same things, some may not know about things others do, etc., so my curiosity is if they can do a better job than I have while still maintaining all the drive-ability. PHP did a good job with my F250, the mileage went up considerably and wondering what they could do power-wise for my Roush F150.

I'm all for getting more power and driveability if they can deliver it and will testify to that but not at the cost of sharing the info in the current tune (just as I would not share PHP's tune with any one else).

I suppose I could always return it to the stock Roush tune prior to them making changes but cannot do a dyno pull with that tune because of my modifications to the vehicle.

 

Well, I was going to suggest that you simply return the truck to stock if you were concerned about someone "copying" the current tune you have, but if that's out of the picture, I guess you just have to count on Bill's honesty.

Yes, I knew that all tunes were modifications to the stock tune, but your question implied you wanted all data lines for the EPROM to be considered set at zero before the start of any tuning. I thought that seemed an unreasonable request, and I wanted to clarify that point.

However, Bill would certainly be able to write a "mail-order" style tune based on your stock tune and, with a "mail-order" tune (or any other mod-safe tune you probably have, or could do yourself), you could show up for a dyno run. In other words, you don't have to come with your "pride and joy" tune, just one that works and is safe on the dyno.

I'm assuming here that you already have dyno charts for your "pride and joy" tune, so comparisons after tuning at PHP would be easy.

Honestly though, since Bill is giving away dyno runs, I would expect a pretty large turnout. I don't know how much actual tuning on any given vehicle he's going to be able to do.

I'd think if you were really interested in a comparison, you'd come on a day reserved for you.

- Jack

 

Billy and I are blessed to be able to donate to various local and national charities -- St. Jude being among our favorites -- but we understand that everyone doesn't have this luxury (even though they might want to). We would like to offer others an opportunity to experience the joy of being able to help those who are less fortunate than themselves on a smaller scale.

For PHP's first Dyno Day on October 23, we are going to hold a voluntary canned food drive. Our goal is to collect 250 pounds of canned goods, which will be donated to a local food bank. If we should fall short, PHP will make up the difference.

We will give away a $25 AMEX Gift Card to the person/people who donates the greatest amount (based on weight!) of canned food on Dyno Day!