need last advice before ordering
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Bigsur: I'm curious to know if you have been quoted an approximate time frame that your tuner will take? I'm interested in a custom tuner sonn and have been reading quite a bit on here about how long some folks are having to wait for their tunes. I was on the PHP site browsing last night and I saw that Bill is having some surgery pretty quickly here and would be down for a week and I wondered what that would do to ship dates. It was a fascinating read about how they started and how fast they've grown but I never saw any timeframes as far as waiting time for custom tunes. Just curious if you had been given a time.
#17
Will the manual that comes with the Gryphon explain all of the above in detail or do I need to refer to all relative posts and sticky's?
#18
Correct me if I am wrong, but dont you get the canned gryphon within a week(usually) and the custom tunes are emailed once done and its then up to the customer to download them? I know I wish I done more research when buying my edge. I would have for sure gone gryphon all the way.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but dont you get the canned gryphon within a week(usually) and the custom tunes are emailed once done and its then up to the customer to download them? I know I wish I done more research when buying my edge. I would have for sure gone gryphon all the way.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but dont you get the canned gryphon within a week(usually) and the custom tunes are emailed once done and its then up to the customer to download them? I know I wish I done more research when buying my edge. I would have for sure gone gryphon all the way.
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for initial startup of gryphon
Just to emphasize another point.
When you load a canned tune the Gryphon will read the pcm's VID memory and load those settings. The VID is where the tire size and gear ratio are stored. So the canned tunes will use these values when loading.
You'll need to drive the truck for approx 50-100 miles while the Gryphon builds stock files, then the custom options can be opened to change the tire size and gear ratio.
The above is for canned tunes only. Obviously custom tunes will have these files already.
Read through the stickys at the begining of this forum, Jack and others have done a great job explaining this.
When you load a canned tune the Gryphon will read the pcm's VID memory and load those settings. The VID is where the tire size and gear ratio are stored. So the canned tunes will use these values when loading.
You'll need to drive the truck for approx 50-100 miles while the Gryphon builds stock files, then the custom options can be opened to change the tire size and gear ratio.
The above is for canned tunes only. Obviously custom tunes will have these files already.
Read through the stickys at the begining of this forum, Jack and others have done a great job explaining this.
Last edited by 88racing; 06-09-2010 at 02:13 PM.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but dont you get the canned gryphon within a week(usually) and the custom tunes are emailed once done and its then up to the customer to download them? I know I wish I done more research when buying my edge. I would have for sure gone gryphon all the way.
I was putting emphasis on the waiting time for Bill to write custom tunes and how hard it is to determine an actual time that customers will have to wait for them.
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Just to emphasize another point.
When you load a canned tune the Gryphon will read the pcm's VID memory and load those settings. The VID is where the tire size and gear ratio are stored.
You'll need to drive the truck for approx 50-100 miles while the Gryphon builds stock files, then the custom options can be opened to change the tire size and gear ratio.
The above is for canned tunes only. Obviously custom tunes will have these files already.
Read through the stickys at the begining of this forum, Jack and others have done a great job explaining this.
When you load a canned tune the Gryphon will read the pcm's VID memory and load those settings. The VID is where the tire size and gear ratio are stored.
You'll need to drive the truck for approx 50-100 miles while the Gryphon builds stock files, then the custom options can be opened to change the tire size and gear ratio.
The above is for canned tunes only. Obviously custom tunes will have these files already.
Read through the stickys at the begining of this forum, Jack and others have done a great job explaining this.
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For the Evo or the Gryphon, is the process you explained actually documented in the manual that comes with the unit for those who don't know any better. So basically you are stating that changing the GR and TS in the Custom Options Menu should be skipped until you have driven for awhile. Is this part of the standard install procedure as documented in the manuals? Just curious b/c those who don't know any better would obviously opt to change the settings right away.
But the stickys at the top do mention it.
Without stock files upon initial startup of a NEW Gryphon its generally recommended that this procedure
be followed.
Some past occurrences have of ironious codes have lead to this recommendation.
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I was wrong that the stickys up top had this info.
It's actually here.
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/faqs-...ions-menu.html
Page 14 of the manual doesn't mention it either.
Going to have to mention it to Corey.
It's actually here.
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/faqs-...ions-menu.html
Page 14 of the manual doesn't mention it either.
Going to have to mention it to Corey.
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I was wrong that the stickys up top had this info.
It's actually here.
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/faqs-...ions-menu.html
Page 14 of the manual doesn't mention it either.
Going to have to mention it to Corey.
It's actually here.
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/faqs-...ions-menu.html
Page 14 of the manual doesn't mention it either.
Going to have to mention it to Corey.
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If you'd like to look at it as both canned tunes and custom tunes should do this, then so be it.
But
As explained before the custom tunes already have a lot of the custom options written into them. So needing to open the custom option menu after loading the custom tunes isn't really necessary, only if changes are needed along the way.
Usually its the canned tunes that are needed to be changed first to compensate for mods+driver preferences. Because that's what you'll get first while waiting for the custom files.
Excerpt:
Q: What if I just skip the Custom Options menu when I load my custo tune. Will my TS and GR be correct then?
A: Yes, if you haven't installed different sized tires or changed your gears since your tunes were written. Bypassing the Custom Options menu caus to make sure you are loading a tune exactly as Bill wrote it.
Q: I read somewhere that we should bypass the Custom Options men the first time we load a custom tune. Is this correct?
A: Yes. The first time you do "Power Programming", it is best to skip Custom Options entirely. This allows the Gryphon to read the original calibration from the PCM and allows it to build all files it will need in the future.
End exerpt.
Yes I understand it sounds like its for customs but it is for both canned and customs.
Last edited by 88racing; 06-09-2010 at 04:34 PM.
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88, I've got another one for you if you have time to answer. As best as you can describe, how much "extra" would one notice b/w a canned tow tune (Level 2) and a custom 87 performance tune. I understand you get the biggest "feel" when upgrading from stock to almost any tune, such as canned Level 2. Is the difference b/w Level 2 and any canned OR custom performance tune significant enough to notice a considerable difference???? This will help me make my mind up if I really "need" a custom performance tune (87 preferred) at this time b/c my mods don't necessarily require it. If the canned tunes will do mostly what I need them to, I may hold off on custom for now, but at the same time....I don't know how much I would be missing out on. Thanks in advance