lol, i am doing fine..how are you? just letting you know i didnt take offense to what you said, i pretty much knew you were just messin but like i said, technically you were right. they are cold air intakes. but with the improvements i got on my 04 heritage and my 08 after installing my CAI i dont see how a paper filter is even close. i do understand the filtration part. when i put my CAI on my 04, i found that it was quicker and oddly enough, it raised my rev limiter... i really didnt expect thet but in 1st gear before i put it on i just was curious what it sounded like right before it hit the limiter so if i had to get on it i could tell where i was by the sound. then i found out about the digital tach in the odometer and used it. if my memory is correct it was 5000 at the limiter. then after i installed the CAI it went to 5400. have no idea why or how, just put intake on and it did it. anyone else have that happen? my 08 has a tach in the gauges so i never did it before i put the intake on. but i found that my 08 is limited at 5200 now. also i had a K&N drop in in my 97 2.3L ranger and got no mpg gains but i didnt have to downshift on as many hills. and just about everyone i know who got a K&N drop in noticed more power or more mpgs or both. according to what MGD says, then its really not the filter but just the amount of air going thru the intake tube? so really the gotts mod would have the same power with a paper filter or a K&N or whatever?

 

exactly! pretty much same thing i got when i installed mine except after the install i tried racing a 4cyl grand am 4 door at a light. light turned green and i got smoked, then i caught up thru normal driving and saw it was a chick talking on her cellphone. she probably wasnt even racing. thats when i realized, my firebird was slow....how slow? my 1990 chrysler 5th avenue grandma edition would have smoked it no problem. not proud of driving a 5th avenue. it is a grandma car. and to add insult to injury, my grandma actually had one....and hers was newer...

 

Bank 1 is passenger side on Fords.

 

turns out the code went off..
i was palyin around in the mud with my truck and it went off
its been off for a day or so.

thanks everyone for all your help! ill keep a look on it. i have a feeling the code will come back

 

your poor truck...

 

well I am going to throw my hat in the ring here, yes I made fun of these "chips" as well, but I am allowed.

I owned two, one a 3.1L grand am and one for a 00 Mustang V-6, both had CAI both had "chips" added after the CAI, and yes you can tell a small power gain on those two.

I ran the grand am with it for 2-3 years, had 110K on it, to 140K no ill effects, no dyno paper to prove it, just my gut feelings.

I changed a bad head gasket, 3.1's are bad for that anyway, a water pump, two wrecks, and a problem with a valve that was stuck open ( installer error ) due to a loose bolt.

My first car, swapped from regular to syn oils, lucas, octane boost and so on, basically that car went through hell, and no ill effect, still running strong at 180K now, still has the CAI and "chip" as far as I know, but the muffler was changed, just pipe, with a SI/SO round can muffler.

The mustang, how I miss it so, but no ill effect for 20K miles.


would I put one on my current truck?
no, not because I think it will destroy it, or something, but because my spending limit is higher and I got a gryphon and such.

I won't say use it, nor will I say do not use it.
I personally had good luck from the ones I have used, and when I got mine, they didn't have a fancy black box, just a resistor taped to a paper with install directions.

unless I see daily written proof of a test made over a year ( or until a failure that can be directly related to the "chip" ) I won't say they are stupid, lies on the gains for sure, but I do not think they are as harmful as some may think.

The PCM is smart enough to not let it start detonating, and if it does it will back its self down, you all claim its so advance and smart then turn around and say it would allow its self to detonate and what have you?

Regardless of what the IAT/MAF/02 sensors say, the engine won't let it detonate constantly, it will back off OR go into limp mode.

Thats why they have many sensors that check on the truck, even if one is completely out of whack the others can keep it in check, and it may or may not ever hurt anything.

Hell, who knows, a person could be running around with a faulty IAT sensor right now, not know it and it could be reading anywhere from 10-90F

 

it only takes a lil' bit of detonation to blow a motor...

 

Wait so Jerame... if they put one on and the motor blows, does that mean they went blown?!?!?

 

Wow this thread really takes the cake and I think it should be nominated for thread of the year.

I am such a fool for spending $550 for my Xcal 3 and custom tunes from Troyer performance when I could have had the same performance from a 25$ chip from E-bay thanks for showing me the error of my ways.

Do they make one for my 6.0 Powerstroke I want to make 800 HP at the wheels and get 75 MPG as well as make lots of black smoke to so I can look cool and smoke people out.

 

Very true, but would you pay 20 bucks to bypass a working one?
The sensors are there for a reason.

 

To get that results, you will need about 8 of them linked together in tandem. The trick is to make sure you alternate the direction of every other one.

 

Thanks for the advice I will try it and get back with everyone but I am not going to spend the money for the dyno runs and I think I am going to take the intake off and run a open turbo because I heard it will make an extra 100HP that way and I heard it whistles more.

 

Yeah, I was just saying.


I feel there is a lot of smart pants remarks and reply's in this thread, I don;t make my living scamming people, but many do, see the claims made on these chips and the pioneer DVD player "hacks" so some people are biting and not knowing anything at all.

Don't get me wrong, everything I own, I worked hard for, but if I could take the easy way selling junk and using misleading item descriptions, I would.

Even when you get down to it, these people are working a pretty much 100% profit margin, one of those costs like $5 to make, and can be made on order.

 

this thread is full of fail...

 

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