Do programmers really make much difference in a gas engine?

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Old 10-10-2009, 12:31 PM
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okay, I'd like to eventually add a CAI and an exhaust, but it probably won't be for a while...so if it is mostly stock like mine, you think the evo is the better way to go? maybe switch to a Gryphon once i have a few more mods
 
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:41 PM
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My choice would be the Gryphon, run the canned tunes a while, figure out what you want from the tunes. I would do the very low cost mod to the stock intake decribed in the How To section( I have). Order custom tunes when you know more what you want. The custom Gryphon tunes can be written to take advantage of a CAI if you decide to do that later and take advantage of the mod to your stock intake.

Just a side note, the cheap mod to your stock intake does almost as much for you as a CAI and costs about $15 to do.
 
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Here is the thread for the intake mod, in case you havenot seen it.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...04-2008-a.html
 
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:03 PM
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No i hadn't seen it, but when i looked at the link it was about lambo doors, i hope thats not the mod hah
 
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:26 PM
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I keep looking in the how to and intake section, but can't find it. What exactly does the mod do?
 
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:41 PM
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yes tuners do a lot for gas engines it not all about hp and tq gains
on top of the hp and tq gains you get better shifts better gas mileage, and you can also mess around with tons of engine and transmission parameters

i just got the Edge for my truck two months ago i went from a 10.xx sec 0-60 to a 7.4 0-60 i can pass better i can pull hills better it shifts down at almost any speed now and i gained 3-4 MPG and most of my driving is city it is definitely worth the investment
 

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Old 10-10-2009, 05:58 PM
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YES! There is a big difference in power and the way the truck shifts and drives. I'd honestly buy it just for the fact of the better shifting and driveability. Justin at VMP Tuning writes some great tunes. It took a couple of weeks to get my Xcal3 from VMP with 3 custom tunes. I haven't regretted dropping the cash one bit. It really woke my truck up!
 
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:17 AM
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My truck before tunes:



My truck after tunes:

 
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyd2723
My truck before tunes:



My truck after tunes:

haha that definitely makes me want to get one
 
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
Here is the thread for the intake mod, in case you havenot seen it.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...mbo-doors.html

 
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BrainDonor
I think Bluejay MAY have meant this one: https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...04-2008-a.html but the Lambo doors probably add a lot of power too!

There's also another, earlier conversion thread you might want to look at here: https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...3-f-150-a.html but it applies to pre-04 trucks.

- Jack
 
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:57 AM
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here is how i beat high gas prices






no get up and go but with 33mpg i cant complain
 
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
I think Bluejay MAY have meant this one: https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...04-2008-a.html but the Lambo doors probably add a lot of power too!

There's also another, earlier conversion thread you might want to look at here: https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...3-f-150-a.html but it applies to pre-04 trucks.

- Jack
Thanks Jack. I believe I had too many things going on!
 
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Love my gryphon with custom tunes.
 
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:28 AM
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My edge evo works very well. I have noticed considerable more power at the start which works very well for me with the trailers, better shifting and I like the guage pod. I have probably not gotten better mileage since I am still enjoying the extra power. One question I do have is reguarding temp readings. What temp thermostat does the 04 5.4 use, I normally thought they were 190 degree ones, but I am getting cylinder head temps of 195 to 204 and the dash guage is still reading around 50% hot/cold, not quite the same thing but anyway. Those of you that are in the know, the digital readouts on the edge evo (mainly CHT, TFT, ECT and oil temp), what should the normal ranges be for those displays. Thanks for the input, this site has been extremely helpful. Also the above homeade CAI topics were interesting and informative.
 


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