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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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I have an XCAL II that was installed in my '05 F150, (5.4, V8) I have since bought a 2008 King Ranch (same motor) what do I do to get the XCAL to work in my new truck. I uploaded the factory settings back to my '05 before trading it in by the way. I called SCT and they referred me out to a local dealer, who told me that he hadn't bought the new software yet and that '07 wasn't compatible software. I guess it will help the papers on my desk stay put for awhile.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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I would call the people you bought it from. They should have the best information. I would call Troyer Performance if you did not buy it from them. Troyer customer service is great.

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Call Troyer they can help you out
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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try uploading to your truck. If it just cranks and wont start then it is the wrong pcm code and you will have to buy new tunes. If it starts and drives than it is the same pcm and caught a major break. it wont hurt anything if it wont start. I doubt it is the same code but it is definitely worth a shot
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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try uploading to your truck. If it just cranks and wont start then it is the wrong pcm code and you will have to buy new tunes. If it starts and drives than it is the same pcm and caught a major break. it wont hurt anything if it wont start. I doubt it is the same code but it is definitely worth a shot

...Yea do not do that!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
try uploading to your truck. If it just cranks and wont start then it is the wrong pcm code and you will have to buy new tunes. If it starts and drives than it is the same pcm and caught a major break. it wont hurt anything if it wont start. I doubt it is the same code but it is definitely worth a shot
Yep-this is not going to work

If the XCall 2 has custom tunes the Xcall needs reprogrammed for your new truck. Call whoever did the custom tunes, or whichever custom tuner you wish to use and talk to them and they should be able to hook you up with new tunes
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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I am thinkin Mike might be the best bet. The guy I bought it from is no where to be found anymore. What does something like new tunes cost?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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...Yea do not do that!
matt-some people should not give advice -huh?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by openclasspro#11
matt-some people should not give advice -huh?
Originally Posted by FX4 Matt
...Yea do not do that!
Originally Posted by 2006M50B
Yep-this is not going to work

If the XCall 2 has custom tunes the Xcall needs reprogrammed for your new truck. Call whoever did the custom tunes, or whichever custom tuner you wish to use and talk to them and they should be able to hook you up with new tunes

are there ANY mechanic changes between the 05's and the 08's?......... Um NOOOOOOOOOOO! So if the PCM code on both trucks is the same they are essentially the EXACT SAME TRUCKS. The only way that it would make a significant difference is if he was full bolt on on his last truck. I have a good friend who writes custom tunes locally and he wouldn't hesitate for a second to do it. so I guess openclass is right..... some people shouldn't give advice
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
are there ANY mechanic changes between the 05's and the 08's?......... Um NOOOOOOOOOOO! So if the PCM code on both trucks is the same they are essentially the EXACT SAME TRUCKS. The only way that it would make a significant difference is if he was full bolt on on his last truck. I have a good friend who writes custom tunes locally and he wouldn't hesitate for a second to do it. so I guess openclass is right..... some people shouldn't give advice
It is not a good idea to just try to upload the tunes. The main problem with the X-cal2 is it will need a software upgrade for 07 and newer. I went from an 04 to 07 F150 and had to do a software upgrade to the X-Cal2. I then had new tunes written by Troyer. I highly doubt the PCM codes would be the same from 05 to 08. I think it is bad advice to tell somebody to "just try it and see if it works." He needs to call Troyer to get some good help with the X-cal2 and tunes or somebody else that knows what they are doing.

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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It is not a good idea to just try to upload the tunes. The main problem with the X-cal2 is it will need a software upgrade for 07 and newer. I went from an 04 to 07 F150 and had to do a software upgrade to the X-Cal2. I then had new tunes written by Troyer. I highly doubt the PCM codes would be the same from 05 to 08. I think it is bad advice to tell somebody to "just try it and see if it works." He needs to call Troyer to get some good help with the X-cal2 and tunes or somebody else that knows what they are doing.

Kevin
the only thing that is going to happen if it isn't the right code is that it is just going to sit there and turn over and over and over. it will not cause any damage at all. I also doubt that they have the same pcm code. the tunes would be worth about $225 ($75 each) and for $225 I would think that it would be worth a half hour of his time to upload it and see if it works, if not then he needs new tunes.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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My worry would be that it doesn't start and then he can't load his stock tune. That is the main reason for not trying it. The X-cal2 just might take a dump if the software version is not correct. This would cause towing to a Ford dealership to be re-flashed.

Kevin
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Justin at VMP Tuning charges $50 per tune.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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My worry would be that it doesn't start and then he can't load his stock tune. That is the main reason for not trying it. The X-cal2 just might take a dump if the software version is not correct. This would cause towing to a Ford dealership to be re-flashed.

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The odds of that are extremely minimal. When you say "software" are you referring to the format in the which the tunes are written?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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Justin at VMP Tuning charges $50 per tune.
thats a good deal. I was to the point that bama chips was giving them to me for $50 a piece but for the average joe it was $75 and most places charge 75
 
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