I have troyer tunes on 93 perf, 3.5 af1, and maggie, you know troyers favorite combo. Well the truck has ZERO ***** off the line or a stand still. All crystal could tell me is that tire compound will cause that. I call BS on that. There are guys on here claiming their 100% "stock" trucks are able to melt the tires from a stop without brakestanding it. Needless to say im not exactly satisfied with this setup. I've tried to datalog, but the xcal2 wont work when i hook it to the computer. Do i need to download different software? If so, why wouldnt mike do this when he programmed the tuner? I hope someone can help because i wasnt given much help from their end. Thanks in advance MGD, i know i will be hearing from you.

 

Has your truck been like this since you got the tunes or is this something that recently happened??

You said it buddy. That is all some guys can do is claim to do something. You really believe a 100% stock truck can roast'em??

 

It always been a dog, just like any other ford. I was hoping for a little better performance than i got with the tunes. I've read thread after thread where people rave about this combo, and when i get it, i was like "ok, this kinda sucks". Im starting to think that the tunes arent written correctly, but i cant figure out the datalogging and crystal offered up no help at all.

Its not that i believe those stock claims, its just that these guys are so insistant about it. Really though, what do they have to gain by lieing on an internet forum?

 

"What do they have to gain by lying...?"

LMAO!!!

NOTHING!!!.. but they do it anyhow, all the time...

I think you need to get ahold of Mike Troyer himself and speak about your tunes.. I've only dealt with Crystal, but never about any problems.. I'd sure ask for Mike if you're unhappy and especially if you're unable to datalog..

 

Wow - why do I always get picked on?

You guys gotta remember - I'm just a simple end-user meeself. :o

Having said that - I'm far less concerned about being wrong than I am about not trying to help if I can....

So - the 'off-the-line' thing. Does it just dig in & go without breaking traction? Or is it 'bogging'?

If it digs & hauls, that's tire compound, road surface, ambient temp, most likely. And as far as performance, actually a good thing, as you are using all that available traction. ( BTW - powerbraking is pretty much a wasted technique that proves absolutely nothing - - flashing the TC by just nailing it is far more effective a launch technique, unless you are specifically after a 'smoke show' - it's not a way to gauge power output - just fyi).

If it does indeed 'bog', like power is being pulled, it could be a host of things like high IAT's, fuel quality, or, lastly, tuning.

Interesting note - in talking with Mike today, he touched upon this very subject briefly - you probably want to give them another call & ask for a call-back from Mike himself. He will welcome the feedback if this is a related issue.

I'm disturbed about your reference to a lack of attention on their part - that is not their style at all. They will work to make you happy, that's been my experience. Don't give up - you can and will get good tech support.

Datalogging - I assume you've absorbed the docs, so head on over to SCT's web site for some tutorials. I'm gonna need specifics on the pc you are using and details on what errors you are getting, versions of Xcal2 firmware, LiveLink, etc, to attempt to help.

The only thing that's on the Xcal2 besides your tunes will be the '07-specific Xcal2 firmware ( v1.15). Any setup for PID's in concert with LiveLink, in preparation for datalogging, is the end-user's responsibility. It's not difficult, just exacting. The docs are very detailed in this regard.

Good luck.


bubba

 

I get error messages in livelink when i connect the xcal2 to the laptop. Is there some other "updates" or versions to download?

 

they prob put stock bike tires and such on their trucks cant help witht he tuner sorry tosay hope u get fixed asap thx don

 

Use the latest version of LiveLink, and ensure you have loaded the Xcal2 drivers first, as detailed on SCT's site. You also need to connect the Xcal2 to the vehicle to allow LiveLink to read the strategy and determine which parameters are appropriate to select from - it's strategy code-specific. If you have firmware v1.15, you have the latest device software.

 

MGD, not picking, i was looking for your help with this matter. You seem to know your s**t so to speak. Anyway, its more of a bog if you stab the gas. I cant see it being a good traction issue though, as it 90% of the time wont even break loose in the rain.

So with the tuner, ill have to return the truck to stock and update the tuner on liveupdate? If so how do i make sure my tunes get back onto the tuner after its updated. I sure dont want to loose the tune files and be s**t out of luck. Also i dont want to screw anything up and have to through the stock intake back on if i dont get the update things done properly.

Also with crystal on behalf of troyer perf., it was more of a brush off situation. I am not saying anything bad about troyer in any way. I spoke with mike for nearly an hour before ordering, and felt comfortable going with them. I just want to figure out the datalogging things so i can have them adjust the tunes if needed.

 

Hey, NP - was kidding about the 'picking' thing lol.

I really doubt you need to update the firmware, as you have a recent Xcal2, and an '07 - so you have to be at the latest v1.15.

Datalogging - here's a real good read - note order of precedence on the PCM-Xcal2-pc connection sequence. http://www.sctflash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10334

BTW - that forum over there is fantastic for help on this stuff - worth your time to go through, IMHO.

The rain/traction issue - wow, that should be just the opposite -you need to get ahold of Mike for some quality chit-chat. They will fix this, if it's the tune.

Good luck.

 

Your custom tunes are written onto the memory of your Xcal 2, no worries about losing them when switching back and forth.. They'll still be there to be loaded again.. They'll only be replaced if you download an updated tune...

And I'm very interested in this thread as I'm expecting delivery of Xcal 2 and Troyer tunes within the next week or so..

 

on the liveupdate screen is has a box to check if you want to backup xcal2 files. Do i click it?

Oh MGD how do i check which firmware is installed?

 

here is what it says when i connect the xcal2

open device failed---> device initialization failed, check connections---> enter strategy---> system access violation exception: Attemped to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. at Sct.Data.SqliteClient.sqlite3_column_text(intptr statement, Int32column) at Sct.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteDataReader.GetString(I nt32 i) at Sct.XC2LiveLink.DmrDatabase.GetPidTableFord()

 

here is what it says when i connect the xcal2

open device failed---> device initialization failed, check connections---> enter strategy---> system access violation exception: Attemped to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. at Sct.Data.SqliteClient.sqlite3_column_text(intptr statement, Int32column) at Sct.Data.SqliteClient.SqliteDataReader.GetString(I nt32 i) at Sct.XC2LiveLink.DmrDatabase.GetPidTableFord()

 

See page 7 of the manual - Device info screen will give you the firmware version. --> http://www.sctflash.com/forum/attach...0&d=1132504812

You should NOT have to use LiveUpdate if it's v1.15.

Here is the LiveUpdate tutorial: http://www.sctflash.com/docs/Using_Live_Update.htm