Mileage tune
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Mileage tune
I've seen a few posts on here about people who have the troyer mileage (87) tune and report around 20 mpg average. To me that seems tough, but is that probable with a tune that was set up specific for mileage enhancement only?
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Performance tuning and keeping your foot out of it will get the best fuel mileage although TP does do mileage specific tunes. I average approx 16mpg all local driving with the 93 max tune and I don’t feather foot it much
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Hi cskrmetti,
Actually, for those who have read the boards here to any real degree over a period of time, they would be well aware of numerous people who have posted getting anywhere from 18 to 22 mpg from their trucks with our tuning, with a lot at 19-20 mpg. There are certainly enough of them posting that here over the past few years about their 2004 & up F-150's.
Additionally, we have made a slew of posts over the past few years about our own 2004 F-150 5.4 3V SuperCrew Lariat (6200 lb) getting right at 23 mpg on the highway with our Stage 2 kit on a full performance tune - just for example. Now of course, that is under ideal circumstances, cruising at 65 mph with the A/C on, but it was very repeatable with that truck - we can and have easily achieved 23 mpg highway mileage if speeds are kept in check with our tuning and a couple of simple bolt-on mods.
However - and this is the most important point by far - there are no miracles, what kind of results you get are really up to how you operate and maintain that vehicle, along with the actual BTU content of the fuel it's being fed - those factors are every bit as important as the tuning in determining what results you actually get. Yes, we can do MPG-specific tunes, and numerous people using them do report back to us getting those kinds of results.
However, far too many people don't even track their MPG correctly, don't fill up the same way (meaning always at the same gas station and letting the pump stop at it's first click, and so many other variables), and so on, that it makes "testing" invalid.
Now given all of this, am I going to make any kind of iron-clad guarantee that you are going to get 20 MPG no matter what? No, of course not - and neither will anyone else with a brain. That obviously depends on far too many factors completely beyond our control, like how the vehicle is operated, it's alignment, tire pressures, BTU content of the fuel, and many other factors, all of which are in the owner's ball court, so to speak. We have no idea the last time someone changed their plugs (5.4 3V motors need their plugs changed every 30K due to the carbon buildup issues that will cost you .7 - 1.0 MPG in just 30K miles of plug wear, as well as the rather rapid carbon buildup on the 3V engine spark plugs making 30K-40K change intervals a very wise thing to do), or the upstream O2 sensors, or how often the fuel filter gets changed (needs to be every 15K with the BEST quality fuels, 5K miles on a supercharged engine - and more frequent on "cheap" gas), whether they are using synthetic fluids (should be, all around), etc., etc. Any vehicle maintained ONLY at Ford's maintenance scheduled levels will never live up to it's potential in terms of performance or service life, or MPG for that matter - all they care about is showing the lowest possible cost of ownership, not what gets you the best results - which is why we go over all of this and more in the docs we send to every one of our custom tuning customers.
So there are many aspects to this, to be sure, and I can see why some late-model F-150 owners would naturally be skeptical about getting 20 mpg in these trucks - but it can actually be done given the right circumstances & mods, as can be seen by anyone who wants to put the time in to search out the appropriate posts here. You will also find even more who couldn't care less about their MPG, they simply want performance and drive their vehicles aggressively, and are happy with 14-15 MPG - and everything in between. You know the score, it takes all kinds.
I just wanted to drop by and respond briefly to let you know that is *is* possible to get those results, and that it is also reasonable to have those kinds of doubts up front - we understand all of that. I hope this brief info helps, and best of luck with your truck!
Actually, for those who have read the boards here to any real degree over a period of time, they would be well aware of numerous people who have posted getting anywhere from 18 to 22 mpg from their trucks with our tuning, with a lot at 19-20 mpg. There are certainly enough of them posting that here over the past few years about their 2004 & up F-150's.
Additionally, we have made a slew of posts over the past few years about our own 2004 F-150 5.4 3V SuperCrew Lariat (6200 lb) getting right at 23 mpg on the highway with our Stage 2 kit on a full performance tune - just for example. Now of course, that is under ideal circumstances, cruising at 65 mph with the A/C on, but it was very repeatable with that truck - we can and have easily achieved 23 mpg highway mileage if speeds are kept in check with our tuning and a couple of simple bolt-on mods.
However - and this is the most important point by far - there are no miracles, what kind of results you get are really up to how you operate and maintain that vehicle, along with the actual BTU content of the fuel it's being fed - those factors are every bit as important as the tuning in determining what results you actually get. Yes, we can do MPG-specific tunes, and numerous people using them do report back to us getting those kinds of results.
However, far too many people don't even track their MPG correctly, don't fill up the same way (meaning always at the same gas station and letting the pump stop at it's first click, and so many other variables), and so on, that it makes "testing" invalid.
Now given all of this, am I going to make any kind of iron-clad guarantee that you are going to get 20 MPG no matter what? No, of course not - and neither will anyone else with a brain.
That obviously depends on far too many factors completely beyond our control, like how the vehicle is operated, it's alignment, tire pressures, BTU content of the fuel, and many other factors, all of which are in the owner's ball court, so to speak. We have no idea the last time someone changed their plugs (5.4 3V motors need their plugs changed every 30K due to the carbon buildup issues that will cost you .7 - 1.0 MPG in just 30K miles of plug wear, as well as the rather rapid carbon buildup on the 3V engine spark plugs making 30K-40K change intervals a very wise thing to do), or the upstream O2 sensors, or how often the fuel filter gets changed (needs to be every 15K with the BEST quality fuels, 5K miles on a supercharged engine - and more frequent on "cheap" gas), whether they are using synthetic fluids (should be, all around), etc., etc. Any vehicle maintained ONLY at Ford's maintenance scheduled levels will never live up to it's potential in terms of performance or service life, or MPG for that matter - all they care about is showing the lowest possible cost of ownership, not what gets you the best results - which is why we go over all of this and more in the docs we send to every one of our custom tuning customers.So there are many aspects to this, to be sure, and I can see why some late-model F-150 owners would naturally be skeptical about getting 20 mpg in these trucks - but it can actually be done given the right circumstances & mods, as can be seen by anyone who wants to put the time in to search out the appropriate posts here. You will also find even more who couldn't care less about their MPG, they simply want performance and drive their vehicles aggressively, and are happy with 14-15 MPG - and everything in between. You know the score, it takes all kinds.
I just wanted to drop by and respond briefly to let you know that is *is* possible to get those results, and that it is also reasonable to have those kinds of doubts up front - we understand all of that. I hope this brief info helps, and best of luck with your truck!
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I cruised at 72 -75 mph with a 19 MPG result running the performance tune. A bit slower 55 to 65 mph would show 20 MPG plus on my Edge unit so it is well within the normal possible.
I cruised at 72 -75 mph with a 19 MPG result running the performance tune. A bit slower 55 to 65 mph would show 20 MPG plus on my Edge unit so it is well within the normal possible.
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I have the Edge and with the 89 tow tune i was getting about 13 city driving. I loaded the performance tune and 93 with +1 timing and now getting about 14.5 city. WHen on the highway if i got about 55-60 it reads 22-26. I dont know how accurate these are but I do wish i did all highway driving. But then again i would never get anywhere right?
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I'm planning on getting a tuner if another group buy comes around. I was thinking of getting the 87 mileage and 93 Performance. I'm undecided on the third tune. I would like the 87 mileage tune for long road trips, and I guess I could go back to stock for towing. I'm looking forward to getting my tuner even though I may not run the 87 mileage tune much. Right now I am getting about 14 mpg which equates to around $0.1964 per mile at $2.75/gal. If I run premium (93) and get 16 mpg @ 2.95/gal that equals out to $0.1837 per mile. Add in the extra performance gains and it is a win win situation.
BTW, I was getting around 17-18 mpg just a few months back but something has happened to my pulley system. I think something may be bent. The dealership has looked at it and agreed to fix and I will bring it in within a few weeks to have the warranty work done. And that to the high temps and high humidity with the A/C on all the time and that probably accounts for my drop from 17-18 mpg to 14.
Either way I still love my truck. Gas doesn't bother me too much now but I was burning between $320-400 of gas a month, now I am down to $200. In my 2000 Dodge Dakota I was getting around 12-13 mpg with a lot less space and a lot less truck, now that I have the Ford I am a happy camper. Here come the upgrades.
BTW, I was getting around 17-18 mpg just a few months back but something has happened to my pulley system. I think something may be bent. The dealership has looked at it and agreed to fix and I will bring it in within a few weeks to have the warranty work done. And that to the high temps and high humidity with the A/C on all the time and that probably accounts for my drop from 17-18 mpg to 14.
Either way I still love my truck. Gas doesn't bother me too much now but I was burning between $320-400 of gas a month, now I am down to $200. In my 2000 Dodge Dakota I was getting around 12-13 mpg with a lot less space and a lot less truck, now that I have the Ford I am a happy camper. Here come the upgrades.
Last edited by cskrmetti; Sep 7, 2006 at 04:22 AM.