Well, let's see here ....

First - last October (2001), the last day that the St. Thomas Dragstrip was open for the year. Snow on the ground when we arrived, it melted, track dried up and we went racing. Since it was the last day, it was cold, the track crew wasn't putting any VHT down. Hmmm ... that sucks. I was spinning my 275/60R15's BFGoodrich Radial T/A's (almost brand new) with a 3.55LS rear-end and my little 302 making an ESTIMATED 220 HP. Not bad though, 60 ft. up to about 2.6 instead of a 2.5 which I have gotten numerous times at different tracks on various days. If I am losing traction then Neal is obviously losing traction. He normally pulls 2.0's in the 60 fts. Hell there was a few times I almost beat him to the 60 ft mark on this day because he was spinning so much. Oh by the way, I weighed 5000 lbs to his 4100-4300 lbs depending upon how much gas he had. So down the track we go, my best time - 17.46 and Neal - 14.52 ... I have the time slip to prove it and so does Neal. So Neal pulls off a 14.52 sec quarter mile with lots of traction problems and fuel problems on the top end. Hmmm ... must be a miracle OR he is doing something right .... I will continue now.

Second - I have personnally seen Neal wipe older Corvettes, Mustangs of various ages, F150's including me (gee that's tough to beat a 17 second truck, Chevy's of various configurations, Dodge R/T's including one that had a 125 shot of NOS, Mopar computer and a couple of other things. Hear about other kills which includes just beating an older Porsche.

Third - I have seen his storage bin which includes numerous 351's which he won't sell me ... damn him ... still working on him though a 5.4L engine which is torn apart (see photo gallery) and his infamous Pro-Street Ranger covered of course !!!

Fourth and last point - I have rode in his truck and it kicks A$$.

One other point - Black F150 Offroad - you are listed as Canada but you are not telling us exactly where you live ???? Maybe a little to scared to tell us where ... maybe you live too close to Windsor ... which would be close enough to show you up close and personal exactly how this trucks moves ????

Anyhow, I will personally put you on notice that you can me on any B.S. and I will be talking to Steve. Now, you may think that this is childish but let me tell you and the others from Windsor know me enough. That if I say something, there is no B.S. included ... guaranteed, I know what I see and hear whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

Have Fun & Keep on Truckin'
Dean

 

So what if you have spec sheets ... Do you know that Ford is under-rating the HP figures for the Mustang Cobra's and above models so that they are under the 400 HP mark which inturn keeps the insurance premiums down for the owners. BUT in reality, they are making more than the SPEC sheets say. I am also quite sure that the HP & TQ figures are also under-rated for the Lightnings. He!!, Chevy over rates their HP & TQ figures for their trucks just to try and compete with Ford but they can't if you were to take two trucks that were identically matched. Ford would take the contest hands down. Go take those two trucks and hook a v-wagon full of beans to each one and see who walks away first. Ford don't have the low end torque for nothing.

So what about those spec sheets again ?????????????

Have Fun & Keep on Truckin'
Dean

 

Neal

-425ft.lbs of tourque from a naturally asperated 5.4 , gee that's only 25 ft.lbs less than a supercharged and intercooled lightning - i can see why you have so many fans lol, maybe you should go work for svt because they had to put a blower on the cobra to make the power they wanted.

- you posted on other sites about me lol, lets see how about on Ford truck world how you are argueing how your headers gave you so much power while every one else made only a couple horsepower, guess yours are just special lol, not to mention how supercharged HD's have non pi exhuast manifolds, and that imrc's are located on the back of the intake (is yours a 4.2l ?),

your the one who said you used to be a ford tech - gee how grown up you are putting down what you used to be - I wonder -why you don't do that anymore - did you quit when the varible venturi carb came out or fuel injection ?


Rocks - what do you mean? was the pcm found faulty because of the chip or was that undetermined? Havent seen a post on that yet?

IzzyEddy - Edmonton

- did you guys vote liberal? Hey how about more gas taxes, the King needs more money, we don't need two slices of bread one will do.

ANYWAYS

old corvetes with carbed 350's ok, 80 mustangs with 4.2l v-8 ok (I beat a 4.2 with my truck too, an old 350 vette with my car, never raced that with my truck)

the first ho(82) 5.0's had 157 hp with a motorcraft 2150 2v carb, the next(83) had holley 4180 4v, 175 hp, the 85 went roller with 210 hp, 86 ho was 200, 87-93 225 hp

87up 302 trucks from 175 hp to 185 hp - and now you have 220? cool

So you raced Neil and he won - ok - sorry but not to surprised, maybe u think i said I could beat him with my truck?

As stated before I don't belive Neil can beat so many mustangs of old or late.

If your truck now makes 220 from a base of 175-185hp what do you think my 89 mustang gt makes with an e303 cam, cobra springs, reworked stock heads (no emission bumps), reworked factory intake (upper/lower), sn95 electric fan, march underdrive pullies, Hedman headers 1 5/8", flowtech h pipe 2.5", dynomax 2.5" cat back?

- and this is nothing compared to what others in the area have - hence why I find it hard to believe that Neil can beat so many mustangs, I don't think I've ever read a post where he lost to one.

- On specs (ford svt brochure) being wrong and articles being correct - well in truck trend they stated that a lightning puts out about 300 hp to the rear wheels with 350lbs tourque - gee Neil has an extra 75 ft.lbs tourque than the 02 Lightning - that is unless the article is incorrect?

the dokota 5.9 around 155 hp, don't know about the dodge but the lightning is generally around 340 hp at the rear wheels

Yes I know the cobra is underrated - it actually dynos about 390 at the rear wheels - the lightnings are closer to real world numbers than the cobra

Did you know that svt could not get the power they wanted from tuning so then they opted to put the blower off the lightning on the cobra? (Colletti had an interview on car and driver, atleast that what i think its called, was on TNN)

as for ford and chev - most are pretty even if they don't favor chev not ford - (well for racing), if one was to pull the ford should have the advantage (for people who use there truck as a truck)


If you want to report me to steve that's ok, but I still think Neil hasn't beat as many mustangs old or new as he states, especially by the large margin he claims. Especially considering there are this many modified mustang just in this area, mind you maybe the liberals are nicer to the easterners as we can't afford to mod new vehicles

 

i ran a 15.953 @ 84.68mph my first/only run so far. my truck was stock with about 2000 miles on it. do u guys think that with the right mods i have a chance to make it a pretty quick little truck?
JP

2001 Ford F-150
4.6L v8 auto
Silver Flareside
Reg Cab SWB (short wheel base)

look in my gallery...and look out NEAL, here i come!!!...j/k

 

what was ur time stock NEAL? just curious..
JP

 

Man you must be 12 or maby going on 13 now!LOL! What a loser!



Izzy - maybe you should call Steve as your friend is calling people names

NOTICE TO ALL MUSTANG DRIVERS - watch out for a 14 second truck

 

HI!... BLACK F-150 WHATEVER : The #'s stated were "FLYWHEEL" #'s not RWH.P #'s. Most of the MUSTANG's I've raced are from "87" to current. The CORRVETTE I ran was a "91" or a "92". If you want to keep making yourself look like a total fool on here, go ahead it looks good on you!LOL! I consider you to be IGNORED now. Because people like you are so hard headed that you think your RIGHT ALL the time when everyone proves your wrong. That's life and it's too bad that us people have to deal with your kind, but that's o.k. As for the header thread on WORLD. The only reason I go over there is for a good laugh. Most of the guys over there know nothing about cars in general and like to b!tch and complain, or they are there now because they could'nt get their way here with STEVE. I proved my point there. BYE , and nice talking to ya.

 

I think it's time for someone to make a drive to Windsor and run what they brung, LOL!,,,,98

 

people like you are so hard headed that you think your RIGHT ALL the time

Now we agree, although in my opinion that is you but o well this is getting kinda old anyway. (still don't know what you mean about me being wrong, just said you cant beat every mustang u see, and that your truck tourque #of 425 seems high when a L is 450)

Bye.

98Screamer - too far away, i'd rather head south than east anyway

 

 

Hi black f150offroad - I've seen Neal's truck - it is TOTALLY professional in EVERY aspect. No 1/2 way measures, no hack job & definitely well thought out down to the last detail. Neal has more knowledge & experience than anyone I have met so far, especially over at "that other site" & I dare say, they could learn a lot from him - I know I have.
I don't know why people find it hard to believe that this much power can be found in these trucks IF you're willing to invest the time, money & most importanly knowledge that Neal has invested. Neal has plenty of witnesses to his victories - if they weren't true he wouldn't post it here to be discredited later!
Hard as it may be to believe, he IS an expert on HP & he DOES have the awesome truck he's told us about. If you don't believe it, then I'd suggest you come take a look for yourself - I believe you'll be amazed at what you see. Oh & he's no kid - he's a grown man with a grown man's truck!

 

Read This

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...threadid=82308

page 2 I say his truck doesn't have a imrc

same page Neil said he new that already

page 4 - Neil blames his buddies (dealership techs) - supposed to be buddies but he badmouths them , plus he used to be one

To repeat 1- I never said is truck was slow, I never said his work was bad, I never said he wasn't helpfull.

All I said was that I don't believe he could beat every mustang he sees, unless he just keeps beating the same one. Also that I can't see how he can have 425 lbs tourque , when it take ford a 8 psi intercooled blower to make an extra 25 lbs tourque than Neil's truck.

Maybe its just me but in MY OPINION if someone can make 425 lbs tourque they would have had to have the intake off, thus knowing wether the vehicle has an imrc or not and knowing the proper location of it

I'm not trying to flame Neil but I just find it hard to believe that every one thinks a truck is going to be faster than a mustang?

All I see people do is flaming other sites on here, why? Do the people have differing opinions? Don't people learn from others? or is that only true if they think the same way as you?

For example if Neil went on corral they would probably say that most mustangs would beat him, but on here everyone thinks there truck will beat mustangs? Well how come a 140 hp bike can beat both my car and Neil's truck - same reason why mustangs are generally quicker than trucks.

Now I think that's enough immaturity from all of us, if we are here to learn then we should agree to disagree.

 

 

LOL!! Hey Neal I think that is your fave phrase right? Well listen up here. You, screamer and everyone else. That includes you Cowlady! I wouldn't harp on blackf150offroad. You all on here need to grow up and that includes you blackf150. You all think you know it all. Maybe you all are right, maybe you all are wrong. I do know this however, blackf150 knows what the hell he is talking about. I live with him, so I know this. You know what the biggest problem here is? You are all the SAME!!! You all want to be right and look "good". Bragging is one thing you all are good at. Really, who cares whose truck can beat whose car and vice versa. Really, WHO CARES!!! I'm sure all of you on here, including blackf150, are just trying to have fun. Well, why not do what he says and agree to disagree and move on. No point in fighting over everything. I think all of you need to grow up and that does include blackf150. Believe me, just because I live with him doesn't mean I will stick up for him, but everyone else needs to grow up as well. Name calling is very immature and belongs to second graders. I'm sure all of you have "cool" cars and trucks, but so does blackf150. Not trying to fight here, but really, I find it a little hard to believe that, Neal, your 5.4 could beat a Mustang. Maybe you have mods that could do that, but a stock 5.4 could hardly beat a Mustang. If you can beat a Mustang with your mods, power to ya!!! But blackf150's Mustang I'm sure could run with your "mod" 5.4 with all the mods he did to his. Either way, it's not about who has what and who can beat who, it's all about having fun while whooping a$$. (Safely of course) There is nothing I hate more than people who feel that they need to race on residential streets. Either way, you all on here are supposed to be working together to help each other. Isn't that what this board is all about? Stop bragging and fighting and start helping and discussing. No use in fighting, no ones a winner then.