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Old May 17, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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Hi Tweaker,

I have to confess that I'm a bit confused by your thread title, "custom programming for shift kit", but then, I'm taking it literally, of course. Reading it literally, we haven't actually done a custom program for a shift kit in your truck.

What we've done is to make a program that has extra-firm shifting. Just so you'll know, we can usually make it chirp on the full-throttle 1-2 upshift, but you'd be extremely lucky to get it to chirp on the 2-3, as that usually takes lousy traction, or more horsepower and a shift kit. I just wouldn't expect it to chirp on the 2-3, I'd say that would be lucky rather than expected. We have had a few people report that happening, but it's not frequent.

As long as the orifice size in the PCS (pressure control solenoid) of your transmission is large enough, it should be able to flow enough fluid volume at the higher line pressure to achieve a nice chirp of the tires on the full-throttle 1-2 upshift. Sometimes we'll run across a truck that has a little bit too small orifice size stock, and so can't flow enough fluid volume at the higher pressure, and in that case, that orifice just needs to be drilled open a bit, just about any good shift kit includes doing that as part of it's installation forthat same reason. Usually they'll flow enough volume, but every once in awhile we'll see a vehicle whose orifice in the PCS is a bit too small.

Let's just see what happens after putting it back in and put some miles on it, & doing some full-throttle upshifts, & take it from there. If it needs any adjusting, we can of course do that, let's just see how it behaves when you put it back in with this program.

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Old May 17, 2001 | 10:53 PM
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I agree Mike,
I'll try that and see what happens, I really dont want to start drilling inside my tranny
to increase the orifice hole.

I was under the impression that this was some sort of custom programming, as it is not
standard when getting superchip from the manufacturer?

It really doesnt matter wether or not it is
custom or not, all I am looking for is results.
Thanks for your help,
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Old May 18, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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Hey guys,

I sent my chip to Mike today to get re-programmed
with the firmer shift program. Aparently I will be able to squawk when it hits 2nd, and sometimes chirp in 3rd. Has anyone here got this program done? If so, what were the results?
I am anxious to see what it relly does, and if it was worth the money.

I know now that my chip is out, my truck runs
like *****. I hate it, I will never own a
car/truck without a chip ever again in my life.
This is the long part now. Waiting for the chip to get flashed and sent back
Man this is really eating at me, and I have only driven my truck 50kms without it.

At any rate, is there anyone out there that had the custom programming done for extra firm shifts? If so, I'd apreciate some feedback.
Thanks in advance.

Morley

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Old May 18, 2001 | 01:38 PM
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Hi Tweaker,

Ahh, I see, and no, I didn't mean to communicate that it wasn't a "custom program", as it certainly is. We've had Superchips make a complete new custom program for you, with the requested extra-firm shifting.

I was just responding (and perhaps it was paranoia on my part, as we try so hard to make sure we communicate correctly to our customers what kind of results we normally get and what they should or should not expect, etc.) to the comment about it "sometimes" chirping the tires on the 2-3 upshift as well as on the 1-2, as that is fairly rare to get it to chirp on the 2-3. We have had a few people comment that they've had that happen with this type of program, as we spoke about briefly in one of our phone conversations, and it was usually on a poor traction surface and/or in cold weather, like say, in the Winter or Spring on black asphalt, etc. In other words, it's fairly rare and really shouldn't be expected, though it has happened on occasion. I think that's the most accurate way to describe it.

We're still on the same wave length, so you do have a new custom program waiting for your Superchip to arrive for the update,. and let's see what kinds of results we get. If adjustments are needed, we'll do that, of course! The whole idea behind a custom program like this is to satisfy *you*, which we will do, at least, up to our ability to do so via powertrain programming.

One of the things we also try to do is to keep the light-throttle upshifts mild enough so that you don't have your or your passengers heads snapping back even when cruising at 25 mph, for example. So when you install it and use it for a few weeks, just check it out in a variety of situations, and if you need more (or less), we'll be happy to adjust it for you!

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Old May 20, 2001 | 12:42 AM
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Mike,
I have one of your superchips.
I would like my shifts firmer.
I was going to ask price but from other posts I know you can't discuss price on these message boards.
I will shoot you an e-mail...

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Old May 21, 2001 | 02:05 PM
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Hi WLF,

Yes, we got an email asking for that info, it didn't have any name with it, so I'm assumed that was you. We've responded, and if you have any questions, etc., or would just like to go over the details, just give us a call, & we'll be happy to.

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Old May 22, 2001 | 02:13 PM
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Hi Tweaker,

We understand, it's no fun being without your Superchip!

Though we are of course bound by the F-150 Online policies (one of which is that communications of a nature between customer & Vendor are to be handled privately, off these message boards), I'll go ahead and tell you that your Superchip just arrived today, a few moments ago, literally!

You sent it via regular mail (the priority mail sticker that was on it isn't much quicker than regular mail these days, just to let you know what we experience), so it took from whenever you sent it until this afternoon to arrive.

It was also sent in an envelope, with none of the original packaging to protect your Superchip, just a postal envelope with little protection. Just so you'll know for future reference, that isn't the best way to ship them, as when envelopes go through the automated sorting machines the postal services use, we've seen them get destroyed. It looks like you probably got lucky, as it's still in one piece. We'll put it back in good packaging, so it's protected on it's way back to you.

We will get it done and shipped back out of here, and then it will take a few days to get back up to you there in Canada.

We do not normally call everyone automatically just to let them know their chip arrived, we just do the work as soon as possible and ship it back out ASAP. That usually gets done within 24 to 48 hrs., just to let you know our average turnaround times for something like (custom program update) that once your Superchip arrives here, so it's normally here for 24-48 hrs. and then shipped back out. Anytime you want status, just give us a quick call or shoot us an email.

So you'll be seeing it shortly, though with the Memorial Day weekend, I'm sure it won't get back to you up there in Canada until after the Memorial Day weekend.

Hang in there, it won't be long now, you'll soon be enjoying your new custom program!

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Old May 23, 2001 | 12:15 AM
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Hey Mike,

I sent you my chip on thursday last week.
Therefore you should have it soon,
Are you going to call me when
you get it?
I cant take it anymore...
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Old May 23, 2001 | 08:35 AM
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Thanks Mike,

I know I'm being a pain in the *ss.
I'll be waiting on my front step for the
next week in case you dont see me replying to
any posts
ttyl,

Morley
 
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Old May 23, 2001 | 10:33 PM
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Tweaker,

Once you get it and test it out, if you ever park ithe truck again and get back to your PC, please post you thoughts about the new program.

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Old May 24, 2001 | 12:35 AM
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Hi Tweaker,

Yep, we know how it is, when you're doing a custom update, people are always anxious to get it back into the vehicle!

The update has been done, and it's on it's way back to you, so I would expect it soon after the Memorial Day weekend, most likely. Without going into details that aren't appropriate here, we sent it back to you via the same method you sent it to us, with more original packaging. We suggest hanging on to that packaging, just in case you ever need to send it in again.

Have a great weekend, Tweaker, & hang in there!

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Old May 25, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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Hey FamilyRide,

I'll let you and everyone know what the results are, I no longer have my G-Tech pro,
so I wont have actual numbers to give, but
I will be able to give at least a feel of
how much improvement there is.
Until then,
Cheers~! )
Have a good long weekend everyone..

Morley

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Old May 25, 2001 | 02:36 PM
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Sorry about the dumb question but, You said with the new program you are doing for Tweaker he may be able to chirp the tires between 1-2 shifts, correct? I know this all depends on tires, road conditions etc. Will he be able to chirp the tires off the line after the chip is replaced? I relize this increases up-shifts but, what dose it do for down shifts? Sorry about all the questions I would just like the know if this is somthing that I would like for my truck.

Thanks have a great weekend!!!

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Old May 26, 2001 | 12:40 AM
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Hey Guys,

Just as an aside, it's a custom program for firmer shifting characteristics over what our normal performance program for these trucks includes, I wouldn't expect to see a significant difference in actual engine power output.

It might be interesting to see a direct back-to-back comparison to see if there is a real difference in ET's from the extra-firm shifting in his new custom program over what we already do in our regular performance program for these vehicles; that would require a controlled back-to-back test of both programs in a short time span, on the same day, within 60 minutes or so to be able to quantify an actual ET difference without having weather be a factor that would skew the results beyond the ability to compare. That would require having both programs on hand at the same time, of course.

We have seen some cases where firmer shifting improved ET's a bit, like with Neal the HP Freak's tranny, where he has both a custom programmed Superchip for extra-firm shifting along with a Bauman Engineering shift kit installed on Stage/Level 5, and he has, needless to say, *very* firm shifts. In talking with him, he felt that the shift kit, which was installed at it's highest level of firmness and shifts significantly harder than without the shift kit, did give him further ET improvements.

Whether we would see that in this particular situation with the 2 different transmission programs in Morley's truck is something that we'll never really know, since it's not possible for him to do a direct back-to-back comparison right now, as he'll only have the 1 program to use, his new custom program.

Our goal here is to give him the firmer type of shift characteristic that he desires, which are over and beyond what we already do in our "standard" performance programs for each computer code in these trucks.

Just FYI as usual................

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Old May 28, 2001 | 04:18 PM
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Don't worry Mike, actual ET's are not
all that important to me, as I dont
race professionally. Like I said, I should
be able to quote "feel" a difference, wether or not this does increase overall
performance of the truck.
BTW: Neal recently blew his tranny too,
acording to one of his posts. So going with
an extra firm shifting program and stage 5
Bauman shift kit, would not be recomended IMHO.

Summitman, I beleive that the downshifting
should be increased as well, due to increased
line pressure in the tranny itself. (please correct me if I am wrong Mike)

And chirping off the line Summitman, well I already do that

Chow for now~!

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