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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Question Swirls & Scratches on Black Truck

I need some help from fellow black truck owners!
I have used Ford polish I purchased from the dealer and waxed my truck, but when it gets in the sunlight, it has hideous swirl marks that look awful.

Can anyone help me out and please advise me on the best stuff to use to get rid of them for good?

I've read in other threads about Liquid Glass and Zaino. The procedure to use Zaino sounds kind of confusing to me, but if it gets rid of the swirls and scratches, I'll go for it.

Please let me know and thanks for the help.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 01:11 AM
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Zaino won't get rid of swirls nor will Liquid Glass.

You will need to use a polish like Meguiar's #9 or Pro's Swirl Remover.

If they are really intense and deep, then you'll need a slightly more aggressive product like Pro's DUZ-all
 
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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Intel486 is right, Zaino won't "get rid of" the swirls, but it does a tremendous job in hiding the swirls. Black (as you already know) is extreemly difficult to detail, especially if the person doing the detailing doesn't know how to use a buffing wheel. Which is what sounds like may have happened to your truck. I've not used the Mequiar's before, but I have used the Zaino on my black Lexus, the process is easy as long as you follow the steps outlined by Zaino. I don't know if you'll ever be able to get rid of the swirls, but before you make any hasty decision see what other advice comes out of this thread.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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I've found pretty good results with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. It won't take out swirls, but does a fairly good job at hiding them Follow the glaze with a coat of wax.

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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Listen to Intel...... He knows about what he speaks!!!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Mequiars has a professional series of products that do a good job of swirl removal.

If you have deep swirls or some scratches you can use #2 Fine-Cut cleaner, but they recommend useing a rotary buffer. It worked good on my son's black ricer. Be careful with this stuff though, it can take off too much clear coat.

They also have a product known as #9 swirl remover. It can be done by hand or a random orbital buffer. It is gentler(not as abrasive) and works well also. We followed up with this after using the fine cut.

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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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3-M Swirl Mark Remover for Dark Colored Cars. P/N 39009
 
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Intel,

When you say Zaino doesn't remove swirl marks from black paint, are you talking about the Z-2 polish or the Z-5 swirl remover not working?

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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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One more question,

After removing the swirls, how do I avoid getting them again when I apply the wax I decide on?

Thanks again!!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by F150Sport
Intel,

When you say Zaino doesn't remove swirl marks from black paint, are you talking about the Z-2 polish or the Z-5 swirl remover not working?
Zaino shouldn't be using the term Polish or Swirl Remover to describe Z-2 or Z-5. I guess they are doing their part to confuse the consumer. Neither product is abrasive. They are waxes and not polishes. Zaino wants Z-5 to fill in swirls. Most people I have talked to said Z-5 really doesn't fill in swirls that well though. Other people have said it does but it took them around 10 coats+ before the swirls went away. Some have even said Zaino will highlight swirls and imperfection in the paint. I know for a fact Klasse SG highlights imperfections and I can bet Liquid Glass does it so I'm pretty sure Zaino will also do it. Before applying these products you need to make sure the surface is 100% perfect.

With carnauba products you can use glazes and waxes w/ fillers in them to help hide imperfections. Little bit easier than trying to make the paint flawless but these fillers and glazes will wash away so you'll have to apply them regularly.

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After removing the swirls, how do I avoid getting them again when I apply the wax I decide on?
Swirl prevention is pretty easy but you can't totally prevent them. You can reduce the amount though. To keep the paint looking good all the time you will need to keep it waxed and also use a polish on it every once in awhile (some do it every 3 months. I do it around every 6 months)

When washing make sure you have a good wash mit. Sea Sponges meant for cars are good. Some have had success with Microfiber wash mitts but I don't like them. I like 100% cotton wash mitts. Make sure they are 100% cotton by burning a strand of the mitt. If it burns to ash, then it is fine. If it burns and has small, hard ***** in it, then it has polyester in it.

Between panels rinse your wash mitt out to prevent it from loading up with dirt.

Make sure you use a quality car wash like Meguiar's Gold Class (Avail. at target in a gallon for $9.99) or Pro's Cherry Suds (avail. from pro dist. or Prowax.com for like $9.95 a gallon) These products help lubricate the surface to prevent dirt from scratching as you wash.

When applying wax make sure to use foam applicators (or microfiber if using a synthetic, except Liquid Glass, which you apply with a foam applicator). Check the applicator often to make sure it hasn't collected any dirt. These pads are unforgiving in this respect because the dirt does not have any pile to absorb into and will be dragged across the surface. I will try to stop and wash the applicator a few times during application.

Use quality 100% cotton towels for buffing. Make sure you get towels just for use on your car. Also, Check the tag to see if it says 100% cotton loop. If it says this, then it has polyester in the backing and only the pile on the towel is cotton. Do not use these towels. If you have the money, then get microfiber towels. They seem to load up faster than cotton towels when buffing off polish, etc. though. yosteve.com has the best mf towels. They don't put off a lot of lint so you can use them for window cleaning too.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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Where can I find the Mequiars #9, I called several auto stores close to the house and none of them have it. Does Walmat carry it.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Where can I find the Mequiars #9, I called several auto stores close to the house and none of them have it. Does Walmat carry it.
Walmart doesn't carry it. You can order directly from Meguiar's at meguiars.com It is in the professional product section
 
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 11:03 PM
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Just like Intel mentioned, go straight to meguiars website and order it there... Here's the link.


http://www.meguiars.com/product_show...ne=PP&SrcCat=3


Good luck.

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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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Or you can get it here along with several other products

http://www.properautocare.com/index.html
 
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