EAGLE ONE TIRE WET vs ARMOR ALL
EAGLE ONE TIRE WET vs ARMOR ALL
Okay okay, I already know what you all are going to say but, I've really been disappointed in the Eagle One.
For one, the stuff isn't exactly cheap and for two, it give pretty pathetic results. Sure it has a nice luster but, after driving for about 5 minutes, you can hop out and see the crap slung all over your wells and, in my case, on my running boards. It picks up road dirt like mad and I've just had an awful experience with this stuff despite trying to use it several different ways.
Am I just not using this stuff correctly?
Here's what I'm doing. While washing, I'm scrubbing my tires with a stiff bristle nylon brush to knock off the heavier stuff then going back over it with a scouring sponge to complete the wash. I rinse immediately and always dry the tires. You can eat off the rubber when I'm done with it. NO brake/road dust/dirt.
I take the truck to the garage and allow it to cool off a little (it typically has to sit outside in daylight (not direct sunlight) while I'm washing it for around 2.5 hours. Once it's cooled off to the feel, I go back around to the tires and spray them down with the Eagle One Tire Wet. I spray each one evenly. I typically allow them AT LEAST 5 minutes to 'sit' and somewhat dry. Following this step, I go back around with a rag and 'buff' them slightly; attempting especially to get the excess that's settled around the letters on the white walls.
It **NEVER** fails that after driving a short trek to work or to the store, I can look down there and they look awful with streaks and blotches in the wells and on the paint from it being slung around. A day or so later, the tires are INCREDIBLY dirty from road dirt and/or brake dust to the point that the white walls are no longer even vaugely near white. They look an off black color.
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?
I've used armor all since I've owned a vehicle and have never, I STRESS NEVER, had any problems even closely associated with the use of the TIRE WET.
What is so wrong with Armor All? I don't use it on my dash nor any vinyl on my truck. Simply the rubber. And, at that, I dilute it to a 75% AA 25% water mix which, in my opinion, makes it go on alot easier. I get very near the desired luster using the armor all but, I keep hearing everyone talking about how bad it is and how little protection it offers. Can someone back this up!? Like I said, I'm just using it on the rubber!
I'm frustrated as heck about this. I want a slick look on the tires and wheels without the hassle of having to wash my truck every other friggin' day because of my tire dressing.
Can anyone help? Please be very specific. I'm a detail freak when it comes to my truck and thus, any help is GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks folks. Sorry for this being so 'long-winded'.
RP
For one, the stuff isn't exactly cheap and for two, it give pretty pathetic results. Sure it has a nice luster but, after driving for about 5 minutes, you can hop out and see the crap slung all over your wells and, in my case, on my running boards. It picks up road dirt like mad and I've just had an awful experience with this stuff despite trying to use it several different ways.
Am I just not using this stuff correctly?
Here's what I'm doing. While washing, I'm scrubbing my tires with a stiff bristle nylon brush to knock off the heavier stuff then going back over it with a scouring sponge to complete the wash. I rinse immediately and always dry the tires. You can eat off the rubber when I'm done with it. NO brake/road dust/dirt.
I take the truck to the garage and allow it to cool off a little (it typically has to sit outside in daylight (not direct sunlight) while I'm washing it for around 2.5 hours. Once it's cooled off to the feel, I go back around to the tires and spray them down with the Eagle One Tire Wet. I spray each one evenly. I typically allow them AT LEAST 5 minutes to 'sit' and somewhat dry. Following this step, I go back around with a rag and 'buff' them slightly; attempting especially to get the excess that's settled around the letters on the white walls.
It **NEVER** fails that after driving a short trek to work or to the store, I can look down there and they look awful with streaks and blotches in the wells and on the paint from it being slung around. A day or so later, the tires are INCREDIBLY dirty from road dirt and/or brake dust to the point that the white walls are no longer even vaugely near white. They look an off black color.
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?
I've used armor all since I've owned a vehicle and have never, I STRESS NEVER, had any problems even closely associated with the use of the TIRE WET.
What is so wrong with Armor All? I don't use it on my dash nor any vinyl on my truck. Simply the rubber. And, at that, I dilute it to a 75% AA 25% water mix which, in my opinion, makes it go on alot easier. I get very near the desired luster using the armor all but, I keep hearing everyone talking about how bad it is and how little protection it offers. Can someone back this up!? Like I said, I'm just using it on the rubber!
I'm frustrated as heck about this. I want a slick look on the tires and wheels without the hassle of having to wash my truck every other friggin' day because of my tire dressing.
Can anyone help? Please be very specific. I'm a detail freak when it comes to my truck and thus, any help is GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks folks. Sorry for this being so 'long-winded'.
RP
...but I don't apply all that much (just a light foam coat), and I apply it in my driveway at the end of the day and don't move the truck until morning. Never had it sling stuff on wheel wells.
i've had lots of trouble finding a good tire shine that doesn't sling off, attract dirt, and last for more than a day. I found that eagle one tire wet WIPES work the best. It goes on nice and thin, but leaves a good medium tone shine, lasts me about 2 weeks, and doesn't attract dirt or fling off. I really like this stuff so far, you may wanna try it.
I'm talking about the ole' standard plain jane Armor All. What's wrong with this stuff on the tires? Does it break the rubber down or something? I can't see it breaking it down before the life of the tires wear. I'm just confused.
What Armor All Tire Dressing are you talking about Dan. I'm not sure I've ever seen it.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I do appreciate it.
RP
What Armor All Tire Dressing are you talking about Dan. I'm not sure I've ever seen it.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I do appreciate it.
RP
Armor all use to use the cheap silicone that breaks down rubber, and migrates into your paint making it a biatch to repaint.
You'll have to check to see if they have changed silicones.
The cheap silicone will also block the UV inhibitors from migrating to the surface of the tire causing blooming which will cause tire failure. UV light breaks down the rubber fast.
If tires fail, the tire company may test the tires to see if the cheap silicone has been used on them. Sometimes they won't uphold your warranty if you used cheap silicone on the tires.
You'll have to check to see if they have changed silicones.
The cheap silicone will also block the UV inhibitors from migrating to the surface of the tire causing blooming which will cause tire failure. UV light breaks down the rubber fast.
If tires fail, the tire company may test the tires to see if the cheap silicone has been used on them. Sometimes they won't uphold your warranty if you used cheap silicone on the tires.
Last edited by Intel486; Jul 4, 2002 at 03:34 PM.
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Have had good luck with Meguiars
I have been using the Meguiars Gold class endurance tire gel, with good results.
The shine is a long lasting shine. The wife picks up lots of dirt from the softball fileds on her car, all I do is use a stiff brush and clean off the dirt, and it is back to a shine ( that is 5 times per week for 2 weeks she is in the park district lots ).
I have not had any problem with sling off with this, but I do not put a real heavy coat on.
I have used the stoner product in the wheel wells ( on the black wheel well covers ) and it also works great, I have not tried it on the tires yet, some day I might ???
Just another one for the pile of suspects to look into.
BTW : The only Armor All I still use are the cleaner wipes, beyond that I have not touched the noraml line in 10+ years.
The shine is a long lasting shine. The wife picks up lots of dirt from the softball fileds on her car, all I do is use a stiff brush and clean off the dirt, and it is back to a shine ( that is 5 times per week for 2 weeks she is in the park district lots ).
I have not had any problem with sling off with this, but I do not put a real heavy coat on.
I have used the stoner product in the wheel wells ( on the black wheel well covers ) and it also works great, I have not tried it on the tires yet, some day I might ???
Just another one for the pile of suspects to look into.
BTW : The only Armor All I still use are the cleaner wipes, beyond that I have not touched the noraml line in 10+ years.
I just bought the Eagle One wet tire shine and haven't had the slinging problem, but it does wear off after a day and the tires get dirty again. I really like the Eagle One gloss spray I have for in between waxes, its work great on my truck, but has anyone tried the wax as u dry stuff? I'm pretty much a clean freak as I at least wash my tires and rims every other day. I kind of see the tire shine products to be used for shows and cruising around in your spanking clean truck with blinding tires 10 minutes after you wash it. I'd be interested to know what shine they use at car washes, that pink stuff seems to hold up pretty well.
RockPick:
Here is another suggestion. I use "Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss" from Zaino. There website is www.zainobros.com not sure why it is called "gloss" because it actually leave a satin finish (somewhat gloss) I myself don't like real shinny or glossy tires. I can say this is works great and does NOT sling off and seems to last quit a while, myself it has lasted about 4 - 5 weeks.
Here is a description of it from Zaino website:
"Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss is a non-oily, non-greasy, rubber protectant and finishing treatment. It's unique formula with Ultra-Gard UV(40) and antistatic properties prevent drying, cracking, browning and repels dust and dirt. Z-16 leaves an incredibly durable water repellent, perfect looking satin finish, that's only slighty glossy and dry to the touch. Use on all exterior rubber, tires, moldings, and plastic trim, weatherstripping, underhood hoses and more."
Thats just some of it. It is true about not feeling greasy the first time I used it I was amazed at how nice it looked and when I felt it no greasy feeling at all and it was dry. I also use Zaino polishes on my truck and am completely satisfied with the results.
I would however like to know what Intel thinks about the Z-16 he has alot of great information and myself really pay attention to what he says in his post. As I said for myself I really like the results of the Z-16, BUT if you like real shinny tires then I would NOT use it.
Here is another suggestion. I use "Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss" from Zaino. There website is www.zainobros.com not sure why it is called "gloss" because it actually leave a satin finish (somewhat gloss) I myself don't like real shinny or glossy tires. I can say this is works great and does NOT sling off and seems to last quit a while, myself it has lasted about 4 - 5 weeks.
Here is a description of it from Zaino website:
"Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss is a non-oily, non-greasy, rubber protectant and finishing treatment. It's unique formula with Ultra-Gard UV(40) and antistatic properties prevent drying, cracking, browning and repels dust and dirt. Z-16 leaves an incredibly durable water repellent, perfect looking satin finish, that's only slighty glossy and dry to the touch. Use on all exterior rubber, tires, moldings, and plastic trim, weatherstripping, underhood hoses and more."
Thats just some of it. It is true about not feeling greasy the first time I used it I was amazed at how nice it looked and when I felt it no greasy feeling at all and it was dry. I also use Zaino polishes on my truck and am completely satisfied with the results.
I would however like to know what Intel thinks about the Z-16 he has alot of great information and myself really pay attention to what he says in his post. As I said for myself I really like the results of the Z-16, BUT if you like real shinny tires then I would NOT use it.
With all do respect to all...
This topic is no different than "What's the best": oil, filter, wax, gas, intake, billet grille, light bar, etc.
Everyone has different expectations and of course driving habits & conditions.
Tires don't NEED added UV protection, as mentioned earlier, normally the tread wears out long before the sidewalls ( a.k.a. appearance).
The AA packaging indicates it contains "no alcohol or solvents". Furthermore it specifically mentions it can be used on tires and rubber molding. If you like the look, there's nothing wrong with it.
XLT_D
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This topic is no different than "What's the best": oil, filter, wax, gas, intake, billet grille, light bar, etc.
Everyone has different expectations and of course driving habits & conditions.
Tires don't NEED added UV protection, as mentioned earlier, normally the tread wears out long before the sidewalls ( a.k.a. appearance).
The AA packaging indicates it contains "no alcohol or solvents". Furthermore it specifically mentions it can be used on tires and rubber molding. If you like the look, there's nothing wrong with it.
XLT_D
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
I would however like to know what Intel thinks about the Z-16 he has alot of great information and myself really pay attention to what he says in his post. As I said for myself I really like the results of the Z-16, BUT if you like real shinny tires then I would NOT use it.
I would however like to know what Intel thinks about the Z-16 he has alot of great information and myself really pay attention to what he says in his post. As I said for myself I really like the results of the Z-16, BUT if you like real shinny tires then I would NOT use it.
01 XLT Sport, i was thinking about getting some of that stuff for my bedmat. I know another guy with a 02 HD used it on his and it looks great. And since it says its not oily, i would work great and look good too with just the satin finish. Do you happen to know how much that stuff goes for? Thanks
the best stuff i've found so far for my tires is eagle one tire wet WIPES. I also have the spray stuff, and the wipes act totally different. Goes on thinner and lasts longer and attracts little to no dirt. I'm sticking with this stuff until i get some of that zaino stuff.
the best stuff i've found so far for my tires is eagle one tire wet WIPES. I also have the spray stuff, and the wipes act totally different. Goes on thinner and lasts longer and attracts little to no dirt. I'm sticking with this stuff until i get some of that zaino stuff.
Harley#386:
Yes, it is $12.95 for 16oz bottle. As I said there is no oily feeling at all to it and so long as your looking for a satin type gloss and not real shinny it really works great and last longer then any other product I have tried. Its almost an apperance of how the tires look when just washed but last, in my case, for about 5 - 6 weeks and we had rain about 12 of those days between that 5 - 6 weeks, so I was impressed. It is suppose to prevent the tires from browning (don't know what causes that) I have never had that problem and I dought any guys on here that keep their trucks washed on a regular basis have that problem either.
It's also like XceLenT Driver said, "to each their own taste" I know "some" tires dont "need" UV protection but then there are some that do. For instance someone that may only put say 3000 miles a year on their truck and leave it outside in the sun all the time then UV protection would be a BIG help to prevent the tires (sidewalls) from cracking. Having the UV protection will not hurt the tires so just an added benifit. I didn't buy it for the UV protection only bought it because it wasn't glossy, wasn't oily, and didn't sling on the truck after applying and I have really liked all the other Zaino products I have tried thus far.
Yes, it is $12.95 for 16oz bottle. As I said there is no oily feeling at all to it and so long as your looking for a satin type gloss and not real shinny it really works great and last longer then any other product I have tried. Its almost an apperance of how the tires look when just washed but last, in my case, for about 5 - 6 weeks and we had rain about 12 of those days between that 5 - 6 weeks, so I was impressed. It is suppose to prevent the tires from browning (don't know what causes that) I have never had that problem and I dought any guys on here that keep their trucks washed on a regular basis have that problem either.
It's also like XceLenT Driver said, "to each their own taste" I know "some" tires dont "need" UV protection but then there are some that do. For instance someone that may only put say 3000 miles a year on their truck and leave it outside in the sun all the time then UV protection would be a BIG help to prevent the tires (sidewalls) from cracking. Having the UV protection will not hurt the tires so just an added benifit. I didn't buy it for the UV protection only bought it because it wasn't glossy, wasn't oily, and didn't sling on the truck after applying and I have really liked all the other Zaino products I have tried thus far.


