Super-cab paint problems

Old Apr 2, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Anyone here have a super-cab with problems of water running down the side of the extended cab and staining the paint? I have a wedgewood blue supercab with about 20,00miles on it, it is about 2 years old and the paint on the extended cab is "stained" from water running down the middle of the 3rd and 4th doors after raining. There are like 2 distinct marks where the water runs down, is there anyway to fix this? I have waxed and waxed with no improvement in the finish, will wet sanding work? Please help. Thanks as always,----medic
 
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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Where are the stains? Are they under the windows on the EC part? I had those same marks and I removed them with Pinnacle Paint Cleansing lotion. Try a paint cleanser or a polish. Wax won't remove the marks. Applying a lot of wax on it is just building up layers over it and not removing it.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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the marks go from under the window and then down the side of the doors, almost to the trim piece, very frustrating, please tell me more about the paint stain remover....Thanks!
 
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Yhea, that is the same thing I had.

Just use a paint cleanser. Find a place that sells professonal products. They'll be able to get you some PPCL but you'll probably have to buy a gallon. That isn't so bad though because you can do your whole truck in it. It is one of my favorite products. It takes everything off! I use it right before I wax. You just apply it with a terry cloth applicator (one of the sponges wrapped in terry cloth. Can get them from pepboys)

You also might wanna try a polish. A polish will be able to remove it but a polish would be more harsh than the paint cleanser.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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I know that "challenger" makes an acid rain remover that works great for removing water spots. Probably similar to the product listed in the above posts.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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greetings fellow medic! so can u get this at any parts store? or do i have to go to an auto body/detail shop for it? thanks! stay safe out there!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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I'm not sure if it is available in parts stores. Our supplier (commercial cleaners, disinfectants, bulk papertowels, etc...) delivers it to us. I know that the brand name is "Challenger". They produce every type of automotive cleaner available from soap to wax to their version of armour-all.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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I'll try to get you a ph. # or e-mail address in the next 24 hrs. so you can find out if you have a local supplier.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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sweet thanks pal.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Yup

When waxing my '01 SCab I noticed a stain exactly where you stated, it went from middle of popout window straight down to the sill on the 3rd & 4th doors. I think it was from when I had washed the car the day before, we don't get much rain in SoCal. Looks like water collects along the edges and base of the popuot windows and it seeped on out after I had chamoised.

I hit it with the chamois again, then Zymol cleaner wax and no sign of it now.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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Re: Yup

Originally posted by menchar
When waxing my '01 SCab I noticed a stain exactly where you stated, it went from middle of popout window straight down to the sill on the 3rd & 4th doors. I think it was from when I had washed the car the day before, we don't get much rain in SoCal. Looks like water collects along the edges and base of the popuot windows and it seeped on out after I had chamoised. I hit it with the chamois again, then Zymol cleaner wax and no sign of it now.
Yes, the stains are from stuff that seeps out from those little windows after you have dried the truck. It caries stuff down and then onto your paint. If your paint gets hot while the stuff is on it, then there is a chance it will stain your paint. Also, if you just apply a normal wax over it which doesn't have any polish or cleaner in it, then you are just sealing in the dirt which helps it to stick into that top layer of clearcoat and stain your paint.\

I find it helps after you wash to open those little windows and the get a towel behind the windows to get whatever water and dirt is in there out.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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zymol

I used a cleaner wax, zymol. With elbow grease light stains and abrasions came out, wasn't sure they would 'til I tried it. No sign of the mark now - in fact, it would be more reasonable to call it a water mark rather than a stain, on my truck, it's less than a year old and I live in dry SoCal. Guess I was remarking more to the point that I had noticed that indeed on the SCab water gets retained around the popout window seals and flows out afterwards. Wonder if the non-popout XL windows do the same thing.

For that matter, I think the bedrails hold water too, especially if you've used a high-pressure water stream. I've seen water keep trickling down the flareside after I've chamoised.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Re: zymol

Originally posted by menchar
I used a cleaner wax, zymol. With elbow grease light stains and abrasions came out, wasn't sure they would 'til I tried it. No sign of the mark now - in fact, it would be more reasonable to call it a water mark rather than a stain, on my truck, it's less than a year old and I live in dry SoCal. Guess I was remarking more to the point that I had noticed that indeed on the SCab water gets retained around the popout window seals and flows out afterwards. Wonder if the non-popout XL windows do the same thing.

For that matter, I think the bedrails hold water too, especially if you've used a high-pressure water stream. I've seen water keep trickling down the flareside after I've chamoised.
Yes, almost everything holds water. It really helps if you take a compressor and use an air nozzle to blow the water out.

Things that hold water our the decals, side mirrors, bedrails, trim, door handles, lights, etc. Anything that isn't that has even the most minute space between the item and anther surface will fill with water. Water even runs into your doors. Next time you wash, when you open your door you'll notice water trickling out of the drain hold on the bottom edge of the door. Some cars had rubber plugs that you had to remove to drain the door. All new cars just have a little slot to drain water. Look for it on the bottom of the door.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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OK, the aicd rain cleaner I was talking about is made by "AUTO EXCELLENCE" It's call "Acid Rain Buffing Cream" Memphis, TN 38103. PH# 1-800-553-0805. I thought it was in Pittsburgh, PA but that was another bottle of stuff.

It is clear coat safe, nonabrasive, and all those other good things

It works great on those nasty stains that run down my doors under the mirror.

This is typically sold to body shops and auto detailers, but I'm sure that the company you work for has some suppliers that carry it.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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After you wash your truck, pop open the rear windows and wipe the seals and the area surrounding it. What happens is dirt gets trapped in the area around those windows and it drips down when it gets wet. If you keep it clean, you won't get the marks.

I use a boar bristle brush to wash my truck and I make an extra effort to get the bristles and cleaning solution into the space around the window. Washes the dirt out and helps eliminate the drip marks.
 
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