I was walking around walmart yesterday and noticed they got some more megs professional stuff in.. Has anyone tried this stuff yet?

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-da-compound.html

 

There are numerous threads on this correction system on http://www.meguiarsonline.com/
Very informative website and it can answer many of your questions by using the search feature.

 

This is the kit I've been recommending for people starting out with detailing:

http://www.autodetailingsolutions.ne...ction-kit.html

 

This is a great system but I don't think it is recommended for beginner detailers. These products are very aggressive and are used for major paint correction projects.

I am new to detailing with a DA. I will be getting the DA tomorrow and will start this weekend on my first project. I recommend using the least aggressive method first, which would be UC, UP, then UW or NXT 2.0. If the UC with the DA did not reach your standards then the MF Correction System would be a good choice. There are also other products in the professional line that have more cut and could reach the results your looking for without using the MF system.

Again, this is just my recommendation for the new detailer with a DA.

 

Exactly the opposite - the MF system is designed for beginners.

 

Megs are not bad products but they just don't hold up or work as well as commercial/professional grade products (that actual cost the same or less). Here are my recommendations...
General paint cleaning (if required) - use a 50/50 mix of denatured alcohol & water (denatured is available at any hardware store & is oil free). It will remove any wax/polish and most all environmental contamination & ensure you are starting with a very clean surface.

For specific swirl mark issues I use BAF/Pro Car Care Beauty Products P21 Swirl Eliminator & Polish- although for 30 years I used 3M products specifically, recently I have not been as pleased with the quality of 3M’s hand glaze. I typically do not like "combination" type products but P21 is very, very impressive & effective from end result, ease of use & overall effectiveness.

Wax/polish...

The absolute best ($ for $) IMHO is "Satin Cream" (for dark colors), it is made by BAF & distributed through Pro Car Care products. It is very easy to work with either by hand, orbital or buffer. It has the same acrylic hardener as the high dollar paint sealants but it has 30% German imported carnauba....no, your arm will not fall off putting it on or taking it off & it has a very mild polish in it as well. Even parking the vehicle outside, the MFG gives a 6 months warranty before another application is required. I use this personally on my toys & daily drivers (which include a 1997 black Cougar sport) and all I can tell you are not even bugs like to stick to the paint- most of the time when water is applied they just float off- bird poop is just as easy. No smeary look either- very clean clear deep look. On my toys, I give them a fresh coat about every 2 years (literally, even for a show), my daily drivers (I have one that sits outside), I apply to the entire vehicle every 6 months, and do the hood, roof and trunk every 3 months (probably overkill, but I know it is well protected from the elements including industrial fallout)
BAF Industries 1910 S. Yale Street Santa Ana, CA 92704 800-437-9893

An excellent alternate product is 3M Perfect It Show Car Liquid Wax- a silicone wax/polish but excellent results as well, just maybe about 90% of the quality of the satin cream.

 

Well the DA polisher was designed for easy use, anybody can use it with a little common sense. When doing major paint correction you have to know what you're doing, or else the person could be creating a lot more work for the future.

 

Don't know where you got it from but, you seem to have the wrong idea about what the Megs MF DA kit is used for.

It is not for major paint correction.

Both steps together are designed to remove moderate defects.
This includes heavy swirls, acid rain, water spots moderate scratches.

This is stretching the term "moderate" pretty far in my book ( and others ). To remove heavy swirls with the Megs MF DA kit, you will be making more than 2 to 3 passes per section to get them out.
It would be more like 6 passes ( 3 moderate pressure 3 light pressure ). The only way 2 to 3 passes have taken out heavy swirls with this kit, is my using 50% D300 and 50% M105 on the pad.

 

Meguiar's DA Microfiber Correction System is very easy to use and anyone can master it within half a hood. The system was designed for production detailing - not show car finishes.

If your vehicle is a swirled-out mess and you seek the best finish possible, the DA Microfiber Correction System is not the ideal choice. For that, Meguiar's 105 Compound and 205 Finishing Polish are still the products of choice. Pair those with a DA polisher, a quality set of foam pads, and a couple hours of research and you'll be achieving flawless paint in no time.

 

 

That is correct.




Good advice here.

 

And - if you use the MF kit, you WILL get a better and more durable finish if you use a quality LSP after the finishing wax. That's why Rick is putting a foam pad and M21 into the kit I keep referencing, but there are plenty of other high quality products out there for that use.

 

This is what mike said on meguiars detail forums.....

"In order for D301 and the finishing disc to remove even light swirls, you'd better have some pretty soft paint. Even light swirls are usually quite a bit deeper than any haze that might be left behind by D300 with the cutting disc.

But, since the DAMF System is really designed for severe defect removal, it sounds like you'd really be better off using a light application of Ultimate Compound with a foam polishing pad to tackle the defects you're dealing with. UC on a foam polishing pad at speed 5 is far less aggressive than D300/DMC5 at speed 4, but you can make the UC/foam pad combo even less aggressive still by slowing down the tool speed and easing up on the pressure.

Michael Stoops
Internet Technical Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
mstoops@meguiars.com

 

He might want to read the directions that come with the product.



I copied them word for word right from the fold out poster....

This is the 1st and only time I have ever seen anyone claim this is for severe defects.
Right in this thread, other actual usage of this product, it is not for severe defects.
My testing shows it is not even for what is called moderate. I guess it would be if you had a very soft clear.
At least one other person needed to go 50-50 with M105 to make it do what the poster claims it would do.