Review: BLACKFIRE Wet-Ice Over Fire

Old Jan 3, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Review: BLACKFIRE Wet-Ice Over Fire

This is really a combo of two Blackfire products. Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and Midnight Sun Wax.
The combo of these two products are the "signature shine" flagship products of the Blackfire product line.

I have used BF Wet Diamond for a quite while now. Easy on, easy off, doesn't stain trim, sharp gloss and very slick.
I have done a couple of reviews here on application, removal and the results obtained when using the product.
I like this product so much I recently purchased a half gallon when it went on sale. Shhh..don't tell the wife.

I have used this a basic paint correction "show car" process many time with excellent results.
Megs M105, Megs M205, Menz PO85, Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection.

I recently purchased Blackfire Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax and wanted to try the Wet-Ice Over Fire combo.

Wash:
Washed the truck (two bucket method) and used a paint cleanser to strip off any wax/sealant that was on the truck.

I had a clean surface with minor swirls and faint scratches that needed correction before LSP (Last Step Product).


Correction:
I thought I'd try a different approach to removing the scratches and swirls than I have tried in the past.
For correction I used Glare Professional Polish with a PC 7424xp and a Lake Country White 5.5" flat pad.
The LC white pad is a high absorption foam formula for the application of waxes, micro-fine polishes and sealants.

A little blurb about Glare Pro Polish...I have used that product for many years with excellent results.
The manufacturer claims it will last five years and more has caused some disputes in the detailing community.
For me it's greatest saving grace is using it to eliminate scratches from bushes etc. and yes, they don't come back.

What I like about Glare Pro is that rather than removing clear coat to correct it actually fills and builds.
Again, this is a completely different approach than traditional "paint correction" polishing paint removal detailing.
I'm comfortable knowing (unlike glazes) that Glare Pro scratch corrections (from bushes etc.) don't come back.
A permanent scratch/swirl correction that adds rather than subtract...what a concept! Anyway...on to Blackfire.


Application:
Ok now on to the process. The swirls were minimal but they were apparant. Glare Pro, LC white, Speed 5-5.5 gone!
Glare Pro by itself left a nice finish and I could have left it alone at this point but on to Wet-Ice Over Fire.

First, I did two coats of Blackfife Wet Diamond with about 10-12 hours between each coat (allowing for sure time).
I applied BFWD with the PC7424xp and a Lake Country black pad. Quick and easy application and removal.
BFWD is very slick and its formulation design is to replicate a similar the look of a fine carnuaba wax.
Again, I could have left it at that and still would have been very happy with the look and finished result.

Second, I applied Blackfire Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax on top of the Black fire Wet Diamond.
I expected this to tone down the brightness and shiny gloss on the Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection.
I did this with a Lake Country CCS 4 Inch Spot Buffs Foam Pad. I used speed 3 on the PC to apply the wax.
The 4" pad does not fit "exactly" inside the jar so I needed to remove the pad to put it inside the wax jar.

I found that you are not supposed to allow the Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax to dry before removal.
It's bacically apply and remove each panel at a time. If it dries it can be a bit stubborn for easy removal.
I may have left it on a bit too long (even though it only seammed like five minutes) as some of it grabbed.

Ok now on to the finished results. Well as a lot of you folks know believe I have used about every LSP known to man.
Lots of you have seen the palm tree reflecto shots I have done off of my black hood and they look pretty good.
This time when I looked at the palm tree I could see brown, tan and green colors that I have never seen before.
I know the Wet-Ice Over Fire combo has been used (and reviewed) many times but it was my first time at the wheel.


Conclusion:
The Wet-Ice Over Fire combo has a totally different finished look! It's VERY deep and it's like looking in a mirror.
The BFMS did take away some of the high shine of just the BFWD by itself but the finished combo look is awesome.
I would highly recommend using this combo as they say "Blackfire - Don't just turn heads, create whiplash!"
This combo has a very stunning unique look!

Last minute update:
The price of Blackfire Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax has just been raised from $60. It is now $80!

The BLACKFIRE Wet-Ice Over Fire Kit is $99
This includes the Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection, Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax,
BLACKFIRE Deep Gloss Spray Sealant, Microfiber towels and applicator pads. (IMHO this is the way to go)

I currently have no pics but I'll take a few (It won't do it justice) if you want.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Pics would be nice.....
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
Pics would be nice.....
Thanks for the request...
It may take a few days...
It's dark when I get home from work.
I should be able to post a few up on Friday.
I doubt I'll be able to capture the "look" though.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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The Glare Pro Polish will take care of swirl marks OK in your opinion? My reason
for asking is I've got a gift card form my sis and their write-up on their site is
impressive.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Railroad
The Glare Pro Polish will take care of swirl marks OK in your opinion? My reason
for asking is I've got a gift card form my sis and their write-up on their site is
impressive.
I would prefer you to create a new thread to discuss Glare Professional Polish.
I'd like to keep this thread on track discussing Blackfire BFWD and BFMS.
I've used Glare Pro Polish for many years. I'll be glad to discuss it further.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin
I would prefer you to create a new thread to discuss Glare Professional Polish.
I'd like to keep this thread on track discussing Blackfire BFWD and BFMS.
I've used Glare Pro Polish for many years. I'll be glad to discuss it further.
OK, Understand.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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Here's the thread I made for Glare Pro Polish...ask away.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:03 AM
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Glare Pro Polish for many years. I'll be glad to discuss it further.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Here's a Blackfire "wet ice-over-fire" pic

 
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Im going to bump this post even though its 3 years old.

This is by far the BEST combo i have used on my truck. almost 3 months later and it still look the same as the day i did the blackfire. I expect it to last atleast a year before needing to do it again.

The price is now down to 69.99 and it comes with the sealant, carnuba wax and some microfiber towels.

Here are some pics after the Black Fire Treatment.

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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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This combo makes that "Wet Ice Over Fire" look that the BFWD AFPP and BF Midnight Sun are famous for.

I'd guess you should get about 3 months longevity before reapplication is needed.
It has a clarity, sparkle, sharpness, and a crisp and reflective look like no other.
...and the best part...it goes on a comes of VERY easy. It is a pleasure to use.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin
This combo makes that "Wet Ice Over Fire" look that the BFWD AFPP and BF Midnight Sun are famous for.

I'd guess you should get about 3 months longevity before reapplication is needed.
It sure does have a clarity, sparkle, sharpness and gloss like to other products.
...and the best part...it goes on a comes of VERY easy. It is a pleasure to use.
Definitely longer than 3 months for me.. When i did the wash last week it still beaded like crazy and still has that shine and its been right at 3 months.
But i'm sure it depends on a number of factors. Mine only gets drove about twice a week and usually on dry roads unless it ices

And you are right, Very easy on and off!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Looks good!

Just like any other product on the market, various environmental factors will impact the longevity. This is true from the most expensive to the least expensive.

The key is to find something you love and use it... often.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Merlin: Any recommendations on a great all-in-one with good correction qualities?

Jim
 
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jaymz
Merlin: Any recommendations on a great all-in-one with good correction qualities?

Jim
Sadly, I've never been a big fan of AIO's.
Just by definition an AIO is trying to be many things.
A lot of folks like Megs D151 but I have never tried it.

"If I could only have two polishes they would be Meguiars M101 and Carpro Reflect"
 
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