When I wax my wife's 2006 Honda Accord the wax never lasts very long. I've been using NXT(original) on it. After about 6 weeks the paint feels horrible and when I wash it the water does not sheet or bead. The water just kind of pools on the surface and is very hard to dry off. Before I start throwing money at random products do you guys have any suggestions. Only thing in my supply right now is NXT and #26.

I have also heard that Honda's generally have very soft paint and I plan on buying a DA sometime in the near future to use on the F150, 02 Trans AM, and the Honda. I'm probably going to go with the G110 what would your suggestions be on products to get with it. I've been leaning towards Meguiars just for the convince of buying everything from ADS. Only problems currently on the paint on all three is some light swirling and a little water etching on the F150 and Honda.

Thanks for your help

 

are you using clay first? If not, go to Wal-Mart and pick up the Meguiar's Smooth Surface Clay Kit... and also, maybe apply every 4 weeks?

 

Yep clay is used before I wax. I just cannot bring myself to wax every 4 weeks just too much other stuff going on to do that.

 

I notice the same things as you with even NXT 2.0. If you can find a can of #16, then you will be golden. I put 16 on my dad's vehicle (which is never washed) and sits outside 24/7 and it lasted a long time.

For winter, I'm in the process of using Zaino, which i've heard is pretty good on the durability. This is my first experience with it so we will see.

 

I'd recommend NXT 2.0 and hitting it with UQD after each wash.

 

I highly recommend Duragloss 105. It is very easy to work with and it lasts a long time. not to mention its outstanding results. If you want even longer protection, use Duragloss 601 (bonding agent) prior to 105.

 

Thanks guys. I've been thinking about Zaino for awhile since a lot of people have great things to say about it on LS1tech.com. The only thing that has kept me from getting is that since I plan on getting a DA and I want to start applying and removing wax with the DA to save time. I have 3 vehicles to keep clean and it gets time consuming. Especially with the Honda....the bumper and hood seems to never come clean. It is unbelievably hard to get all of the bugs and junk off when washing it. I have never had a car that causes so much time and attention!


I've never heard much about Duragloss any more info on it?

Another bit of info is that the Honda generally gets neglected more than the F150 I only wash it about once a month which I know isn't helping me any but I just run out of time keep up with it much better. Part of the problem is that I have no shade or a garage large enough to wash in so I'm restricted to early morning or late evening to wash. Cannot wait until this housing market improves so I can either get a barn or extra large garage to do things properly.

Thanks

 

Better yet, let's talk about how you're maintaining your vehicle between waxings...

To me, it's not probably not the wax, not the environmental conditions but rather, the way you are washing, QDing or otherwise maintaining between waxings...

Potential problems:

1. Not correctly mixing your wash solution to manufac's specs. By mixing a wash solution too strong, you're creating a caustic mix that *will* strip wax -- in a very similar fashion as what a dish soap will strip wax off of a surface.

2. Poor QD methodology. If you're QDing frequently, you're potentiallly being degredational to your LSP.

3. Poor LSP application. If you're not allowing NXT to properly 'set up' after applying, you'll be applying more frequently. Unfortunately, no product out there protects forever however; there are products that will protect longer than others. NXT, while it's not too shabby, won't last like Zaino. Z, however, is a bit more involved, is kind of pricey, and, in my professional opinion, doesn't look nearly as nice as most other products on the market (just a bit too suran-wrapped looking to me). Protection-wise, it's kind of in a class by itself. Duragloss (found at Carquest and is regarded as a pretty decent product -- fairly inexpensive too), while probably better than NXT, isn't up there with Z in my opinion - having used all three products previously mentioned here.

4. Wash methods - While unlikely, you could be scouring the surface of the vehicle too aggressively thus, causing a rapid degradation of the LSP. Think of washing in a similar light as sanding a piece of wood. Even if you're using some SUPER light cut sandpaper, you are cutting. Washing is very similar... if you're using a low-pile MF mitt or something that isn't offering an opportunity for your wash solution to lubricate the surface being washed, you are, in a more rapid fashion, breaking down your LSP. Also, you can think of this one in a similar light from the standpoint of QD'ing your painted surfaces.

5. Gremlins. Never rule out a gremlin. They live and breed amongst us. They have certain ways of causing a freshly waxed surface to look awful and offer NO protection. Never underestimate the power of feeding after midnight or water...

6. Harsh environmental conditions. Unfortunately, no product lasts and lasts and lasts. Zaino, Duragloss, and any other synthetic/natural product on the market will break down at some point in time. If the vehicle is being kept outside, in direct sunlight, or in a overly humid/moist environment, it will break down and render it useless. 6-weeks, in some conditions, may not be unheard of!

Maybe that helps a tidbit? Maybe it hinders... not sure.

-RP-

 

Son of a gun!!! I KNEW it was the gremlins...time to get the twin barrel side by side and a lawn chair...

 

Thanks RP!!

1. I wash using gold class mixed properly
2. I never QD the Honda since it usually gets too dirty to even think about it.
3. I apply NXT by hand. Usually do the whole car then go back and start removing.
4. Using quality wool mit
5. Might be a gremlin
6. The car sits outside in sun minimum of 4 days a week when she is at work. But gets garage when ever we are not driving it.

I use all of the same products and same methods as I do on the F150 the exception I wash the F150 once a week and sometimes 2 weeks. Where as the Honda 3 to 4 weeks between washes. The F150 doesn't fit in the garage so it sits outside 100% of the time and the wax still lasts a lot longer

 

NXT 2.0 is a considerable improvement over the original.

 

Duragloss results have been compared to zaino on other sites but a little easier to work with. If you do not plan on spending a great deal of time such as myself on keeping your autos clean, take a look at the duragloss line.
I like using it for its ease and long lasting protection. Between full details you can use Duragloss aquawax to keep it looking nice. All the products can be found at carquest or any detailing site such as autogeek.

 

What about Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845, I was planning on using this for the up coming winter. How does this stack up against Duragloss? Ive been using Wolfgang Sealent 3.0 on my 08 Accord coupe and it has held up good and it stays out doors 24/7.

 

I've done a little looking into the Duragloss and think I'm going to give it a shot. Sounds like a pretty good product. I have a Carquest just down the street from my work so I'm going to pick a few of their products today. Sounds like the aquawax is pretty good for inbetween complete details. If it only lasts 1/3 as long as they advertise then I will still be ahead of where I'm at now and price seem good.

Thanks for the assistance.

 

A lot of Carquests/Napa doesnt carry the 105. You may have to order it online. I have read on a few other forums of people topping the 105 with the Collinite 845. If you going with the Duragloss line pick up some 101 (polish), 601 (bonding agent), 105 (sealent). Those products will give you some good results and protection.