Thanks for posting....so who was it that was arguing with me about how much dust Menzerna products have?

I said I have NEVER seen dust using Menzerna products and what do you know, the video shows a very milky, oily breakdown with no dust.

Great video of the Flex and even better video proving just how right I am.....





EDIT, found it, Gators....eat it. LOL
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=menzerna

Starts with post 39.

If you need me, I'll be here right being right, while you keep posting what you hear. LOL

 

Well said, I started with a G100 and thought it was VERY easy to use. Super happy with the results. Got a FLEX, better results, faster, and trigger is the bomb. BUT...... I think the G100 was a good start. The flex is a little different, and I can see how it would be a bear with no DA experience.

Lets sum it up. DA good, Flex great. DA great for "beginners", Flex practice makes perfect.

 

I have never used a DA and I think I am going to start off with just the after reading what you guys say about it. It is also cheaper than the g110, so that is a bonus. Do you attach new pads to it or do you attach bonnets? What else would I have to get other than the actual machine (sorry that this isn't really on the subject, but i figured since you guys were already talking about it)

 

Sorry repost

 

the DA's use either Meguiar's or Lake Country 6.5" pads (i'm sure there are many others).... bonnets can be put over some pads just for removing wax or sealant, but it doesn't sound like many people do that....


i guess i am starting to lean towards the PC7424 again.... i just didn't want to spend $150 on a DA then want to buy the Flex down the road when i could have just bought it up front.

i also should have mentioned that i really only intend to use this on my vehicles, not really get into customer detailing like some of you guys. so maybe the PC is the best place to start for now and see if i like the results i get.....

 

Ahh, good ole JP. Lets see. Take a close look at the polish used in the video and read which polish I said dusts. He didnt use SIP or 85RD. I'll take my coffee black. Also, this might be of interest to you, http://www.autopia.org/forum/detaili...a-dusting.html I was also kind enough to pull this up as well...http://www.myforecast.com/bin/climat...6&metric=false . I'll take cream cheese on my bagel.

As for the org. posters question, Id go with a used g100 to start with.

 

the XC 3401 VRG.... the other is a true rotary is it not?

 

ya, i edited it. its not too terribly bad of an idea to buy a rotary to start with though. Plus spending $280 on the flex seems a bit high for me. You can buy a used G100 on ebay if you're lucky or you can get the 7424 for around $100 and a makita 9227 for $160 on ebay and still have money left over that you wouldve spent on the flex.

 

i just can't see spending the money on a PC when i keep hearing that the Flex will do the same work better and faster....

i'm gonna have to flip a coin here or something....

 

Imagine what the rotary would do for ya.

 

i'm no expert by any means, so i've at least ruled a true rotary out for now.... i'd say those take a bit more knowledge and practice for sure.

 

Understandable. If the price of the flex doesnt bother you, then go for it.

 

For the average driveway detailer that is just maintaining his own rigs, the PC is plenty. There's just no need to jump into a rotary, and the potential hazards that come along with it, unless your detailing for money.

IMO you should start out with the PC. You may find that it's all you'll ever need. Remember, using a more powerful machine won't make up for lack of experience and poor technique.

 

HW, do you use the flex or the PC?

How long have you been detailing? From reading the board it must be 10 years or more.

 

LOL, well I guess I have to side on the experience side on this one. Since I have several Menzerna products and not one of them has dusted on me yet. Looks like on that massive thread of 5 posts, the elder there said to use less product. Hmm, have we heard that before?

And FYI, its much hotter here in Tejas than in your hood. And finally since you graced us with your presance in the CD section, I don't recall you owning any or using Menzerna products.

So therefore, I win. Plus I am older and more wiser.

if you want to see dust, try some Optimum Polish.

Keys to minimize dusting.
1. Amount of product used
2. Proper pad care, removing old product
3. Time to breakdown fully
4, Speed of pad on surface
5. Surface temp too hot
6. improper pad prep, not preloaded

I could make up some more if needed...
7. Experience of detailer
8. amout of hair the detailer has or has not....
9. Number of kids the detailer has, thus the time factor
10. amount of beer consumed