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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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For non-OCD'ers, I can honestly say that going right from clay to NXT 2.0 will satisfy most people out there.
+1. After I clayed my vehicle two weeks ago which stripped most if not all the fillers from my previous polish I was like ugh... this was a mistake... all the swirls jumped out big time afterwards... I was thinking I should of just washed and straight to wax. I have a porter cable even but I just don't have it in me anymore to spend an entire day detailing and multiple polishing steps.

I was pretty bummed at the thought of having to do atleast one pass with Super Resin Polish before waxing because I wanted to get my yearly claying done and over with and I just didn't have it in me to do even one pass with polish, heh. Red Moose Glaze and Autoglym Super Resin polish are suppose to be class leading with filling/hiding swirls by hand, and to my striking surprise, just one pass with NXT 2.0 totally blew away anything I've ever used before.

I find that the suran wrap look of a synthetic alone is ricer-like, thus my instant aversion to it (aversion is the right word, right?)
They've fixed this in NXT 2.0.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by emig5m
They've fixed this in NXT 2.0.
I wouldn't exactly say they fixed it. It's still there, it's just not as dominant.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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No. NXT doesn't have carnauba - none.

Like Boss said - Yes. GC does have a very very light cleaning action to it (although, I think it's more of a solvent cleaning thing).

Two coats, in my opinion, does ensure a uniform coverage and is a very good idea to use (again, my opinion).

NXT was called a 'wax' because of it's placement on the market... The average Autozone guy isn't going to be able to differentiate between a sealant and a wax. NXT *does* have very light cleaning abilities but, I'd definitely stop short of saying that you're removing the previous layer. As Gip mentioned, it's the law of diminishing returns at work here -- meaning that, yes... some is removed but, not all. Simple abrasion will remove some, right?

I would also concur with Thump, the Saran-wrapped look is not fixed but, then again, I've not yet found a sealant from any manufac. that doesn't leave that appearance (again, my opinion) -- and I've tried several.

Lots of great products out there and definitely more than one way that will be considered 'right'.

Lastly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... Do it a few different ways and figure out what *YOU* like best because *YOU* are the ultimate judge, jury, and executioner.

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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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I think I've heard here that the "saran wrap" look is not really noticeable on light colors - it's on dark, especially black, where topping with carnauba makes a difference.

Mine is Arizona Beige, and with just NXT 2.0 I don't see how it could look much better - but I'm not OCD.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
I think I've heard here that the "saran wrap" look is not really noticeable on light colors - it's on dark, especially black, where topping with carnauba makes a difference.
Correct.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I'm preparing to move from my apartment and during the packing I noticed I had bought (just recently and completely forgot about it) Mothers Carnauba Wax. Would it be advantageous to apply NXT 2.0 followed by the Mothers Carnauba? I have a black truck so from my understanding of what's been said in this thread is that it would be... Correct?

PS - I get to move into a place with a garage and driveway! Yay! I get to detail my truck finally! But first I get to practice with all the new products I bought on my girlfriend's jeep
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Val3ntin0
Would it be advantageous to apply NXT 2.0 followed by the Mothers Carnauba? I have a black truck so from my understanding of what's been said in this thread is that it would be... Correct?
Let's leave that up to you...

Give it a try. You're not going to hurt it. While you should allow some time for the NXT to 'cure', it doesn't have to be the 24-hours that so many refer to as the necessary amount of time... Do, however, give it several hours and then top half or the whole hood with your Mother's Carnauba (which is a great product, btw).

Once you've got it on there, assess it and judge for yourself on if it's a worthwhile step or not. You're the ultimate judge when it comes to your vehicle's appearance.

What I think you'll notice -- and most notice -- is that the carnauba on top of the NXT will add some depth and darken the paint slightly. While this layer won't necessarily be a huge protection step, it does add the appearance qualities that so many of us like and demand to see when working on dark paint.

For me, it's one of my favorite 'two-step' processes on black or dark paint... NXT or MPPP and then top with a pure Carnauba. Nearly every black or other dark color that I work on will get some kind of treatment along these lines (including my own).

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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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If I already spend so much time making the truck sparkle, I might as well take that one extra step. Thanks RP!!
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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I generally try and top the NXT with #26. The #26 seems to bring out more depth and color that NXT by itself
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dkstone05
I generally try and top the NXT with #26. The #26 seems to bring out more depth and color that NXT by itself
Agreed. #26 can also be substituted with Meguiars Gold Class if you don't have #26 on hand.

 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Question on cure time for the nxt. I plan on waxing my truck tomorrow morning and the temperature is going to start out in the low 50's tomorrow and get up to the high 60's. How long should I wait before applying #26? Last time I waited about 6 -7 hours and it seemed to work great but the temp. was in the 80's. I want to get both coats done in the same day but I'm afraid the nxt won't have enough time to cure and it might rain on sunday. What's your thoughts.

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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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ok so i got my truck in yesterday.. i plan on doing the 1.claybar 2.mirrorglaze3 3. NXT2.0 4. Megs Gold Class.. NOW... when i assessed the truck, the paint looked good.. but then in daylight.. you can see that therees tons and tons of Swirls in it.. almost looks like they buffed it with a buffer, and they didnt know what they were doing... the question is will me Above Plan work?? or is there another route i should take?? maybe some of the step above arent neccisary?? My goal is to REMOVE all these swirls..
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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You should be fine with the same type of wait time...

The more I've learned about the 'bond time' thing, the less I believe in it, honestly.

My new opinion is that it's an overly cautious estimation of the absolute worst case scenario where a guy is waxing his vehicle during a rainy night while in his driveway IN the rain...

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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by diggman08
ok so i got my truck in yesterday.. i plan on doing the 1.claybar 2.mirrorglaze3 3. NXT2.0 4. Megs Gold Class.. NOW... when i assessed the truck, the paint looked good.. but then in daylight.. you can see that therees tons and tons of Swirls in it.. almost looks like they buffed it with a buffer, and they didnt know what they were doing... the question is will me Above Plan work?? or is there another route i should take?? maybe some of the step above arent neccisary?? My goal is to REMOVE all these swirls..
What is mirrorglaze3?

Doing it by hand?

Have any pictures of the severity of the swirls? This is kind of important so that we can concur or push you towards a different chemical to snub the problem.
 
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
You should be fine with the same type of wait time...

The more I've learned about the 'bond time' thing, the less I believe in it, honestly.

My new opinion is that it's an overly cautious estimation of the absolute worst case scenario where a guy is waxing his vehicle during a rainy night while in his driveway IN the rain...

-RP-
Although I concur with you in some situations, I think that there are some things that need to wait... #21 is a prime example... RollingRock and myself have found that with #21, at least on our trucks, we have to wait awhile before we top it/do another coat else we get streaking and an overall poor finish...

On the other hand, there are products like EX-P that offer great results in as little as 45 mins to an hour... You could probably get away with less, but that is my eating/resting break. I typically work non-stop until this point, so I figure that even if you can go straight on, I will wait.

Further, since I like waiting for the product to be 100% dry (and have my break), I apply and leave it for the hour or more, depending on the product, then remove later.

On that note, I will say that on Silver, I have gotten away with topping #21 in as little as 3 hours with decent results. (4+ hours did better, though)...

Totally OT, but a couple of days ago, I threw on a coat of NXT (old one) before going out because it was going to rain (and Saturday I had to go to a drive through carwash... long story)... It bagen raining when I was halfway done removing the product... That time I didnt wait an hour, I just applied, then in the same order I aplied I removed. I will say that NXT comes off REALLY easy when it is raining...
 
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