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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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Car care product you have to check out

Surfing some Audi sites about my new car and this pop up with a car care product came on my screen. I thought I would pass it onto my Lightning brothers. It was one of those deals if you pay shipping they will send you a sample. I did and was totally impressed with it and just ordered some more.

go to www.stagecarcare.com/stagecarcare.asp . IT is for their stage one cleaner. It is basically a prewash that is supposed to "lift" the dirt off you car when you rinse it prior to washing. All you do is basically mist it on the car let it sit for one minute and rinse it off and the dirt just lifts off to prevent it from damaging the paint when washing. I sprayed the whole car and had a few huge bird droppings on the car. I gave the bird dropping an extra spray. Then with a gentle rinse I just ran the hose over the car. You could see the dirt washing off the car. As for the bird crap it just washed right off with no water pressure. After that is was a snap to wash the car.

Check out the site and get them to send you a sample and it will sell itself.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Does it also strip your wax?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Actually, that concept is a very good one. If you can remove much of the dirt prior to washing, it should reduce your chances of marring the surface when washing. I use Poorboy's Spray & Wipe for the same purpose. Spray a light mist of the stuff over the entire vehicle, and rinse it off. Many times I don't even wash after doing that........... I simply use the normal Spray & Wipe process of misting some on, and lightly wiping it off. Works great!

lifeguardjoe's question is a very good one of this new product............. will it strip the existing protective coating? Spray & Wipe doesn't.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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not sure but I actually think it has wax in it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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if it has wax in it what keeps it from sealin in some of those unwanted particles and spots of dirt your trying to wash off?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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I doubt that it has wax in it, as that would make it difficult to do what it was designed to do.

Anyhow, if it does remove much of the dirt without removing the protective coating, it may very well be a fine product.

Keep us posted as you continue to use it. I'm always looking for products that minimize the chances of marring. This one could be a winner!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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I emailed the company for some more info on the affects on wax and long term use. I am sure it will be a biased response but lets see what they say. I will post the email.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Did you notice in the video....

He is using the "Ultimate Hose Nozzle"....
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Want that stuff is halflife is acid, acid cleans real good but it comes with its draw backs like it shortens the life of your paint and make metal rust even more.
I advise you not to use that stuff, I do detailing for a living and I use acids to clean semi trucks but semi trucks have a vary thick hard paint.
If you do use that stuff and if its got a certain acid that acid will etch your windows, cheap chrome, acid is not good on cars. If you are going to use that stuff use a garden sprayer and spray it with control spray and don't let it set more then its needed and RINSE real good.
There is only one good way of detailing cars and its with elbow grease and good products. A good wash, claying, polish once a year, applying protection.

"Some" car washes use acid/s to clean cars to cut costs in labor and materials and then they apply a all in one polish/wax spray then they wipe, all done, time 10 min's.

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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That sounds like it could be. It has a safety label that says keep out of eyes and kids. Maybe that is what it is for. It sure works good on the bird crap though.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Hey halflife... see if you can get an MSDS for this stuff. I've searched around on their site and it doesn't look like they have them posted...

Since you own the chemical, they have to supply you with the MSDS if requested under the Freedom of Information Act regulations...

That will reveal the presence of acids and such... or, at least it should.

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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As I'm exceedingly interested in this product as well, I went ahead and contacted them concerning an MSDS.... Here's what I found...

This product is 14% Benzenesulfonic acid. AKA: SODIUM DODECYLBENZENE SULPHONATE. This, apparently, is the only registered chemical that is required by the freedom of information act to be published on the MSDS.

After cruising across some information on the web for this chemical, it doesn't appear to be ultra-nasty to human health but, being that it is a light acid, I would wonder what it's actually doing to the clear.

Interesting facts about this chemical:

It's a Pesticide...

It's in Bar Master 'High Suds' as a soap...

12 Kilograms costs a mere $230 +S&H!

It's used in a Meatroom Degreaser

It's an ingredient in Cetaphil facial cleansers


After reading what I've read, I think I'd be willing to give it a whirl (or mix up my own concoction).

I have the MSDS in .pdf if anyone wants me to forward it...

RP
 
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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As I read on...

Even though the acid is present in a 14% solution, the overall pH according to the MSDS is 7-7.5 so it is actually very slightly caustic rather than acidic. Mind you, drinking water is typically right in this immediate ballpark on the pH scale.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Wow,
Great Research guys. I just received my 36oz bottle and hope it will last me through the winter. You only have to mist it on and it works so it should last awhile.

I think if you keep a good coat of wax on the car that small amount of acid will probably do just as much damage as a NYC rainstorm.

I think this product will be great for the salt after a snow storm.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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This really looks interesting Halflife...

Please keep us posted on how you like it and how well it works.

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