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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Qwikliner vs. others....

Hello all. Well, my local Line-X dealer has disappeared--stripped of his franchise. (apparently he was spraying a cheaper liner and calling it Line-X) So, my question is...has anyone heard of Qwikliner? I did a search and only a few posts appear...none directly related to Qwikliner. The local truck accessory shop here wants $480 for an 8' bed. I would have to travel an hour to get to my nearest Line-X dealer, but would do so if needed. If Qwikliner is comparable, I might consider it. Considering the prices are comparable, I would hope this Qwikliner is a quality product. There is also a local Rhino dealer, but they are a body shop and do the Rhino Lining part time, so I am not real comfortable with them doing it. Any thoughts? Thanks for the input.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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QuikLiner is made by Ultimate Linings. It's a cartridge based product and it's available to the general public. You would only need a small air compressor and the cartridge gun which costs about $500 new, used ones are less that.

Pros: You can buy it yourself, it's available to the general public. The product is aimed at little Mom & Pop shops like tint shops, repair shops, etc. because there is very little start up costs.

Cons: It's low pressure (VERY low pressure) and it will not look anywhere near as good as a high pressure product.

QwikLiner was applied to this toolbox by a tint shop that is about 20 miles from my shop. The owner was not happy with it. So, we took it off and applied LINE-X. That being said, maybe you'll like it, but maybe you won't.




Here's more pics of QwikLiner:




This is what the cartridge gun looks like.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Considering it looks no where near as good as the Line-X, but costs the same, I may as well travel the hour and wait for my box to get sprayed. After doing some additional research, it seemed more of a DIY type system...minus the cost of the gun. If I was going to go with that low pressure look, I would go with Rhino in that case. Unfortunately, the only shop that does Rhino around here just sprays the Tuffgrip and is not even familiar with the other Rhino products. Whether I go with Rhino or Line-X, I at least want the installer to be versed in the product. BTW, are you doing any of the Line-X floor coatings? They look neat. Maybe I should invest in the local Line-X franchise seeing as the other franchisee screwed his up....
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Any brand of bedliner that's high pressure is going to look much nicer than any brand of bedliner that's low pressure.

LINE-X bedliners are high pressure only. Rhino has low pressure (Tuff Stuff), and high pressure (Tuff Grip, Hardline, Solarmax). However, it's my understanding that Tuff Grip and Hardline were existing low pressure products that were modified for a high pressure application. But, I've never verified that information. Many Rhino dealers still don't spray high pressure mainly because they can't or don't want to afford the equipment (which is different from low pressure equipment).

Aspart-X is LINE-X's polyaspartic floor coating (and can also be applied to LINE-X's spray products!). I'll be at Aspart-X training later next week.

Here's some Aspart-X chip flooring samples. It's very difficult getting a good photo since it's so reflective. They look quite nice in person. Also, note that instead of color chips, you can add granite or quartz.






 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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interesting flooring. what are some of the specs on it? is it an epoxy and what kind of prep work is done?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Aspart-X is a polyaspartic, not an epoxy. Polyaspartic is a 100% aliphatic polyurea. It won't fade like epoxy, won't crack like epoxy, and you won't get hot tire marks (if in the garage) like epoxy, and is more durable than epoxy. Aspart-X is 100% VOC free.

The prep depends on the substrate (wood, fiberglass, concrete, metal, formica-countertops, etc.), but for concrete:
It's best to use a diamond grinder (with the attached vacuum) which you can rent and sand the surface of the concrete. That's all you have to do to the concrete, it's ready for the basecoat. For a two or three car garage, Aspart-X is a one day job.

The chips shown in the pictures are 1/8", 1/16" is also available. Go to torginol.com and you can play with a color-chip simulator.

I just got back from Aspart-X training. We put down Aspart-X on a 1,450 sqft showroom floor and a countertop. Looked pretty good to me!
 

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TruckGasm
Aspart-X is a polyaspartic, not an epoxy. Polyaspartic is a 100% aliphatic polyurea. It won't fade like epoxy, won't crack like epoxy, and you won't get hot tire marks (if in the garage) like epoxy, and is more durable than epoxy. Aspart-X is 100% VOC free.

The prep depends on the substrate (wood, fiberglass, concrete, metal, formica-countertops, etc.), but for concrete:
It's best to use a diamond grinder (with the attached vacuum) which you can rent and sand the surface of the concrete. That's all you have to do to the concrete, it's ready for the basecoat. For a two or three car garage, Aspart-X is a one day job.

The chips shown in the pictures are 1/8", 1/16" is also available. Go to torginol.com and you can play with a color-chip simulator.

I just got back from Aspart-X training. We put down Aspart-X on a 1,450 sqft showroom floor and a countertop. Looked pretty good to me!
i actually own a garage flooring company, we do epoxy and i actually have never had my stuff crack fade or get tire marks. i guess that just depends on quality of the epoxy and clear coat though. using a diamond grinder is best that is what we do for prep and really gets the surface in the best condition.

and not to be rude or anything but most of the time grinding and putting the base coat and chips in is a one day job. it usually takes two days so you can put the clear coat on. and it also depends on the concrete that you are grinding, some of that stuff is really really hard.

how much are you guys going to sell it for? and if you every need help with stuff or any tips, i am in the area so just give me a shout
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Aspart-X dries in one hour or less. I was in Killeen, TX putting down the floor and it was very humid. Since Aspart-X is moisture cure, it was drying in 20 minutes. So, it's easy to put down basecoat, wetcoat/chips, topcoat, second topcoat in one day. Total, it took two days for the 1,450 sqft job. After the final coat, it's ready for light duty in 2 hours and full cure is 24 hours.

Yes, there are different types of concrete, some take longer than others. Also, new concrete takes less time than older concrete (assuming is dirty).

Most (but not all) epoxy products are aromatic and will fade if exposed to sunlight.

Prices vary depending on the size of the job. Larger cost less per sqft. I guess were talking anywhere from $3.50 to $7.00 per sqft depending on what the customer wants and the size of the job.
 

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