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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Question ReFlex @ $299 or the other guys?

A local auto body shop in my town is running Holiday specials on Reflex spray in liners @ $299 and I am considering an install, any suggestions before I schedule?

Or should I go with one of the other two industry leaders....?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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I would go with somebody that uses a high pressure system, you'll get a much more uniform texture and better durability. Reflex is a low pressure so you'll get that cottage cheese look plus it's applied paper thin. For $300 you pretty much get what you pay for. I would look at one they have done to see if you like it then look at someone that uses a high pressure system then decide.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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ive got the reflex liner in my truck and it looks pretty smooth i think they have a new tip design to cut down on the "cottage cheese" look but mines sprayed on at least 1/4" thick so i dont know where sl3820 is gettin his facts from my friends dad owns the reflex company
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Yeah I saw a guys truck at work and it looks like its 1/4" thick which is what sparked my interest, plus his is color matched to his truck.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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I had a Reflex in my '06 Dodge for 2 years before I sold it and it looked just as good the day I sold it as it did the day I had it done. It didn't have a "cottage cheese" look to it at all and mine was about a 1/4" thick as well. I had a Line-X in the truck before that one and it did look a little better but items in the bed still seemed to move around easily -- the Reflex was a really "sticky" liner which I liked a lot.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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I am now skeptical of "good deals" for spray ins.

Just glad I have Line-X now.

Here's why.







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I fell for the 299.00 deal for a spray in (High pressure) and it was destroyed in 1 year. Took only 1 hour for me to pull out the entire liner.

Good luck.

RR
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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I'll throw in a few comments.

With a low pressure bedliner, you're REALLY at the mercy of the applicator. There seems to be a wide range of looks with low pressure bedliners. High pressure bedliners all look very similiar and provide superior adhesion. In the last year or two, Rhino and Toff have changed from low pressure to high pressure. If you go with Reflex, I highly recommend you take a look at some of the dealers work before you let him loose on your truck.

Reflex does not offer a lifetime warranty that's valid nationwide. The warranty is only with the dealer that applies it. If he goes out of business, you have no warranty. Considering the current economic situation, you might want to really give that some thought.

Here are some pics of Reflex. They all certainly have that low pressure look.








To compare, here's sort of a close up of LINE-X (high pressure):
 

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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One more point, NOBODY in the bedliner industry sprays 1/4" thats one of the biggest lies when they say "up to a 1/4" it's the "up to" part thats the catch. Every low pressure system I've seen like Reflex, Vortex, Pro-tex, Speedliner and all the others were sprayed thin, due to the nature of the application those systems are not able to get the high build like the hot systems. The thickest I've seen like those were only about 65 mils just above 1/16", 1/8"(125 mils) is standard for most hot systems.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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After looking at those pictures and refreshing my memory some more the low-pressure liners definately do not have the good looks that high-pressure systems have.

Originally Posted by SL3820
One more point, NOBODY in the bedliner industry sprays 1/4" thats one of the biggest lies when they say "up to a 1/4" it's the "up to" part thats the catch. Every low pressure system I've seen like Reflex, Vortex, Pro-tex, Speedliner and all the others were sprayed thin, due to the nature of the application those systems are not able to get the high build like the hot systems. The thickest I've seen like those were only about 65 mils just above 1/16", 1/8"(125 mils) is standard for most hot systems.
I wish I had pics of the Reflex liner in my old truck that I sold because I can PROMISE you the areas of the liner that could be measured was 3/16-1/4" thick. As for the middle of the bed I have no clue because obviously that can't really be measured.

Back to the original question...... $299 is a great deal but just for the sake of the warranty on the liner I would probably go with a Line-X. Most people seem to go with Line-X so they would probably be the last to go out of business if that started happening and it very well could.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I wish I had pics of the Reflex liner in my old truck that I sold because I can PROMISE you the areas of the liner that could be measured was 3/16-1/4" thick. As for the middle of the bed I have no clue because obviously that can't really be measured.
And that's where the deception comes in, not saying all but alot of applicators tend to use a technique in the industry called "edge loading" meaning all visible lines and edges are sprayed thicker to trick you in a way to make you think the rest of the bedliner is as thick.

Actually you can measure the middle of a bedliner with a tool called a "thickness guage" a true installer would have one to ensure that your bedliner is at the proper thickness and to prove that you are getting what you paid for.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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And that's where the deception comes in, not saying all but alot of applicators tend to use a technique in the industry called "edge loading" meaning all visible lines and edges are sprayed thicker to trick you in a way to make you think the rest of the bedliner is as thick.

Actually you can measure the middle of a bedliner with a tool called a "thickness guage" a true installer would have one to ensure that your bedliner is at the proper thickness and to prove that you are getting what you paid for.
Thanks for clearing that up. I now see how some (and probably many) installers can "cheat" the customer on this deal by simply spraying the edges thicker. I guess a customer could counter that by requesting the installer to prove to them that the liner is the same thickness in the center of the bed as well.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 08FX4
Thanks for clearing that up. I now see how some (and probably many) installers can "cheat" the customer on this deal by simply spraying the edges thicker. I guess a customer could counter that by requesting the installer to prove to them that the liner is the same thickness in the center of the bed as well.
No problem. I'm just trying to help clear up any misconception in this business and inform people. Gasm actually posted some pics on a different thread of a rhino that sure it appeared thick and I'm sure the edges were nice and thick looking where he actually used the measuring tool on the wheel well and only showed it to be 15 mils thick(62.5 mils is only a 1/16). Then showed one he had done where it was the proper thickness it should be.
 
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