Rhino lining or Line X ?
Had my bed line-x'ed about a year ago still looks brand new,I Have sceen a rhino lined truck and it looks like shi*.You can see cut marks and whare the coating has torn and made a hole in it.Spend your money on the line-x
Originally Posted by sportf150
You will need that other 200 bucks if you ever take that drop in liner off to repair all the rust and holes that have accumulated on the bed over time...
I will agree with you that the bedrug looks nice. The only thing that concerened me was dust/dirt accumulation. Not real fond of having to vacuum the bed out every time I washed the truck and I doubt the water would evaporate out very quickly sitting in my garage. If you're going with a bed cover of some sort, that would definitely be the way to go.
Let me first off introduce myself as this is my first post on these threads. We have a 04 f-150 as our shop truck and while lookin for the door speaker wire colors i came across this thread and decided i had to register and post on here. My name is Tony and me and another buddy just recently opened up a Rhino Linings in Michigan. I was awarded #1 sprayer in the state so if you hear me talking about something its only because i know what im talking about.
Now on to the issue of Rhino VS line x......
First off, it DOES depend on the sprayer, if the sprayer gets lazy either liner will be damaged in no time. At our dealer im the only one who sprays trucks so ive gotten very good at it.
Line-X uses the same principal for their bedliners but they havnt gotten the chemicals down packed yet. Their are HUGE differences in the cure time, and the thickness. We cut out a hole in someones bed while installing a 5th wheel hitch and they had a Line-X and we could see the thickness and it was barely half of what ours is. We've got this nifty little tool called an Elcometer that measures thickness in mils that we use to measure our liners and they average from about 150 to 200 mills and any time we get a chance we measure our competitions beds and they average about 100 mills, sometimes less. Another thing thats gotta affect performace is the texture, ive see some Rhino linings that look like *** because of the texture but even more line-x's, again this depends on the sprayer. That being said if anyone has any questions just let me know. Also if anyone is from the southern Michigan area and your interested in a liner tell me and ill give you a discount.
Now on to the issue of Rhino VS line x......
First off, it DOES depend on the sprayer, if the sprayer gets lazy either liner will be damaged in no time. At our dealer im the only one who sprays trucks so ive gotten very good at it.
Line-X uses the same principal for their bedliners but they havnt gotten the chemicals down packed yet. Their are HUGE differences in the cure time, and the thickness. We cut out a hole in someones bed while installing a 5th wheel hitch and they had a Line-X and we could see the thickness and it was barely half of what ours is. We've got this nifty little tool called an Elcometer that measures thickness in mils that we use to measure our liners and they average from about 150 to 200 mills and any time we get a chance we measure our competitions beds and they average about 100 mills, sometimes less. Another thing thats gotta affect performace is the texture, ive see some Rhino linings that look like *** because of the texture but even more line-x's, again this depends on the sprayer. That being said if anyone has any questions just let me know. Also if anyone is from the southern Michigan area and your interested in a liner tell me and ill give you a discount.
So, thicker is better? I was told Rhino had to be thicker because it's softer. My father works for Dunbar mechanical (if your from southern MI you should know them) and many of their trucks have rhinoliners in them. So far, every one has been damaged from the abuse they see on real job sites, rerod gouges them to the metal everytime. they just seem to be a lot less rugged than the line-X.
Originally Posted by creed123
So, thicker is better? I was told Rhino had to be thicker because it's softer. My father works for Dunbar mechanical (if your from southern MI you should know them) and many of their trucks have rhinoliners in them. So far, every one has been damaged from the abuse they see on real job sites, rerod gouges them to the metal everytime. they just seem to be a lot less rugged than the line-X.
the bud rug seems to be sufficient for my particular usage of the bed...primarily hauling motorcycles and wood...nothing abrasive. spray-in liners do seem to offer a bit more durability when it comes to abrasive objects and usage, but i do think many people who end up going that route don’t even need that much protection for the bed.
..but that's just my two cents
Rhinolininer no offense but the people on this site are well informed about the two products. I suggest you read up on your competition before you try to make an argument for your product on a site like this. The two products couldn't be more different. The fact they are both spray in bedliners is the only thing that is even remotely the same.
I spray Ameraguard and can agree with Rhinolininers comment. it depends on the applicator. I will give my .02 though
Line-x -
Pros- Much harder, dries faster, doesn't need to be as thick for same protection. i like the texture more than rhino,
Cons- fades like no body's business (it looks like crap in no time with their current chemical formulation), and the topcoat (for UV protection) comes off... WARRANTY IS MISLEADING - the warranty is for light duty (applies only to f150 not 250 or 350!!) pickups for NONCOMMERCIAL USE. meaning if you do constuction (say throw bricks in the bed) , it will not be covered by the nationwide warranty. Now that is not to say that the applicator will not warranty it, but the that is up to each individual shop.
Rhino -
Pros - little bit better no slip
Cons - soft, just rub it against any other bedliner material. dries a bit slower, so depending on applicator, you may get runs or "rain drops" on accessores or under bed rails (gravity causes this due to dry time). a good dealer can negate this, but it is more like to happy with a cold process (rhino is cold). personally i don't like the texture that most applicators put on, but that is just my opinion.
my opinion... go with line-x if you are going to use the hell out of your truck (most people don't) unless you are concerened it will chalk out in about a year, go with rhino if you want it stay a little blacker for longer. what other bedliner shops are there?
Line-x -
Pros- Much harder, dries faster, doesn't need to be as thick for same protection. i like the texture more than rhino,
Cons- fades like no body's business (it looks like crap in no time with their current chemical formulation), and the topcoat (for UV protection) comes off... WARRANTY IS MISLEADING - the warranty is for light duty (applies only to f150 not 250 or 350!!) pickups for NONCOMMERCIAL USE. meaning if you do constuction (say throw bricks in the bed) , it will not be covered by the nationwide warranty. Now that is not to say that the applicator will not warranty it, but the that is up to each individual shop.
Rhino -
Pros - little bit better no slip
Cons - soft, just rub it against any other bedliner material. dries a bit slower, so depending on applicator, you may get runs or "rain drops" on accessores or under bed rails (gravity causes this due to dry time). a good dealer can negate this, but it is more like to happy with a cold process (rhino is cold). personally i don't like the texture that most applicators put on, but that is just my opinion.
my opinion... go with line-x if you are going to use the hell out of your truck (most people don't) unless you are concerened it will chalk out in about a year, go with rhino if you want it stay a little blacker for longer. what other bedliner shops are there?
Ameraguard:
You mentioned the LINE-X warranty is for light duty trucks only. That is incorrect. The actual written nationwide lifetime warranty can be viewed here: http://www.goline-x.com/images/img_pdfs/natwarranty.pdf
For commercial trucks, the dealer can offer any warranty they want to, just like you. All bedliners have their limits. I'm not going to warranty a bedliner that I know will be used beyond what I think the product is capable of. LINE-X corporate feels that the product is good enough for any consumer, hence the best warranty in the business.
Throughout the years, there have been several LINE-X UV topcoat products. The latest one (less than a year old), LINE-X Xtra, is applied like a topcoat but actually migrates into the bedliner. It won't rub off and is guaranteed. You can read more about Xtra at www.linexfortworthtexas.com
Rhinolinier: All LINE-X dealers have an Elcometer. Unfortunately, they're not consistantly accurate. Don't rely to heavily on it.
You mentioned the LINE-X warranty is for light duty trucks only. That is incorrect. The actual written nationwide lifetime warranty can be viewed here: http://www.goline-x.com/images/img_pdfs/natwarranty.pdf
For commercial trucks, the dealer can offer any warranty they want to, just like you. All bedliners have their limits. I'm not going to warranty a bedliner that I know will be used beyond what I think the product is capable of. LINE-X corporate feels that the product is good enough for any consumer, hence the best warranty in the business.
Throughout the years, there have been several LINE-X UV topcoat products. The latest one (less than a year old), LINE-X Xtra, is applied like a topcoat but actually migrates into the bedliner. It won't rub off and is guaranteed. You can read more about Xtra at www.linexfortworthtexas.com
Rhinolinier: All LINE-X dealers have an Elcometer. Unfortunately, they're not consistantly accurate. Don't rely to heavily on it.
Last edited by TruckGasm; Nov 15, 2005 at 05:21 PM.
TruckGasm -
when i was a customer of line-x, I called corporate line-x about i problem regarding my truck (f250) and used it for hauling some cement bricks. it ripped (it was sprayed thin in that area), and my warranty didn't cover that. unfortunately the line-x that sprayed my truck changed ownership otherwise i am sure the owner would have fixed it for me. The new owner was not as helpful as i would have hoped.
now maybe they changed it in the last year or so, but hard copy of the warranty says light duty only, and one would reasonably assume that would include f250 and f350. i can say as a customer at the time, that was not upheld for me. just call anonymously as a customer and say it was an f250 used for construction, and let us know. maybe i talked to an idiot, but i know what i was told and why it was not valid. it is all in how you interpret it, and a corporate line-x rep explained it to me why my truck is not valid for the warranty. needless to say i felt like i was mislead in the beginning.
as for the new topcoat, i am just moderately familiar with it, and a step in the right direction. i know the problems with fading were bad before. my question is, what does it cost the customer....
btw... i would still personally put a line-x in my truck over rhino. i would feel even better about it when i have some real world experience regarding the new topcoat. i do appreciate truckgasm for being respectful with commenting on my post... together we just have .04 cents!
when i was a customer of line-x, I called corporate line-x about i problem regarding my truck (f250) and used it for hauling some cement bricks. it ripped (it was sprayed thin in that area), and my warranty didn't cover that. unfortunately the line-x that sprayed my truck changed ownership otherwise i am sure the owner would have fixed it for me. The new owner was not as helpful as i would have hoped.
now maybe they changed it in the last year or so, but hard copy of the warranty says light duty only, and one would reasonably assume that would include f250 and f350. i can say as a customer at the time, that was not upheld for me. just call anonymously as a customer and say it was an f250 used for construction, and let us know. maybe i talked to an idiot, but i know what i was told and why it was not valid. it is all in how you interpret it, and a corporate line-x rep explained it to me why my truck is not valid for the warranty. needless to say i felt like i was mislead in the beginning.
as for the new topcoat, i am just moderately familiar with it, and a step in the right direction. i know the problems with fading were bad before. my question is, what does it cost the customer....
btw... i would still personally put a line-x in my truck over rhino. i would feel even better about it when i have some real world experience regarding the new topcoat. i do appreciate truckgasm for being respectful with commenting on my post... together we just have .04 cents!
Last edited by Ameraguard; Nov 15, 2005 at 04:50 PM.
If the warranty link above does not work for you, just go to LINE-X's website, www.go-linex.com, and click on Warranty, you can view it there.
I really don't know if the warranty ever mentioned "light duty", but for sure it does not now.
Other than that, I don't have an answer for you. Maybe because you said the truck was used for construction they decided not to fix the problem, I dunno, but that's what it sounds like. I can tell you that myself and the other LINE-X dealers around here really don't care about the use; if you have a problem that's reasonable, we'll fix it.
I really don't know if the warranty ever mentioned "light duty", but for sure it does not now.
Other than that, I don't have an answer for you. Maybe because you said the truck was used for construction they decided not to fix the problem, I dunno, but that's what it sounds like. I can tell you that myself and the other LINE-X dealers around here really don't care about the use; if you have a problem that's reasonable, we'll fix it.


