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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Here are the market share numbers as compiled by Frost & Sullivan for the 2004 fiscal year.

Line-X- 37% market share
Rhino- 26.5% market share
Ulitmate- 19.5% market share (Never heard of them)
Speed Liner- 4.2% market share
Everyone Else- 12.7% market share

Last Year's Market Share #s
Rhino- 31.5 %
Line-X- 26%
Ulitmate- 12.3%
Speed Liner- 11.8%
Others- 17.8%

If you buy a Line-X you will see why the product is taking over the industry.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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YIKES! Speedliner lost more than half of their market share!
 

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by Bryndon
Check out the Dualcomp Bedliners, it solves all the issues of both the drop ins and the spray ins - and looks good for an extended period of time, no "annual tune-up" required!

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Does look kinda cheesy...still a plastic drop in liner, just a thicker one. Looks like it would scratch easily and leave the marks behind... also who knows how strong it is...could very well be left up with a scuffed up drop in liner in the long run after dropping however much money...

http://www.dualcomp.com/whatsdifferent.htm

-"Dualcomp comes with a limited three year warranty against manufacturing defects for peace of mind. " - vs. lifetime warranty with Line X spray in..how's that for piece of mind

-who knows how strong
-cheesy looking
-"Floor greatly reduces paint chaffing compared to traditional hard liners" - reduces...doesn't stop

-not to mention if even after all this you still want one...they are only available for 2004 and up f150s
 
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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When was the first time you looked at one? I mean looked at one, not on line? It's a heavy floor mat, does not dent the floor when you drop something.

Also, they do not rub, at all. The Dualcomp website is being redone right now, fixing the issues created by the original site designer.

Anyone who wants to see "the rest of the story", drop me a line bohara@dualcomp.com and I'll send you a DVD that shows the real story.

SportF150 must have a line-x and not want to see the best bed protection available. Or is he a Line-x dealer?

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Bryndon
When was the first time you looked at one? I mean looked at one, not on line? It's a heavy floor mat, does not dent the floor when you drop something.

Also, they do not rub, at all. The Dualcomp website is being redone right now, fixing the issues created by the original site designer.

Anyone who wants to see "the rest of the story", drop me a line bohara@dualcomp.com and I'll send you a DVD that shows the real story.

SportF150 must have a line-x and not want to see the best bed protection available. Or is he a Line-x dealer?

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Or how about neither...considering the original topic which I personally posted...Rhino vs. Line X, most would find it apparent that neither of your assumptions are intelligent ones. (...by the way, I still have yet to make a decision on which spray-in liner I will be purchasing, though the information I have collected so far has me leaning toward the Line X product)...just thought I'd make you feel like more of a moron by sharing your ignorant assumptions with forum viewers.

Now an intelligent assumption on the other hand would be that Bryndon here, (bohara@DUALCOMP.com) is affiliated with the dualcomp product he is trying to push on forum viewers.

Bryndon...you may not want to push your product in a forum if you can't accept the fact that not everyone is going to share your love for the product you stand by...and then on top of which get bent out of shape about it. Just my opinion.

As for your statement..."SportF150 must have a line-x and not want to see the best bed protection available. "
Was just curious as to where your dualcomp product falls on this list.

Line-X- 37% market share
Rhino- 26.5% market share
Ulitmate- 19.5% market share (Never heard of them)
Speed Liner- 4.2% market share
Everyone Else- 12.7% market share
 

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by Bryndon
When was the first time you looked at one? I mean looked at one, not on line? It's a heavy floor mat, does not dent the floor when you drop something.

Also, they do not rub, at all. The Dualcomp website is being redone right now, fixing the issues created by the original site designer.

Anyone who wants to see "the rest of the story", drop me a line bohara@dualcomp.com and I'll send you a DVD that shows the real story.

SportF150 must have a line-x and not want to see the best bed protection available. Or is he a Line-x dealer?

Bryndon
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Yea I gotta say that was a little unprofessional if you are trying to build your client base. I actually made the first comment about it being cheesy and SportF150 was just agreeing with me.

I do have a linex. I love it, it holds up great and I have no complaints. I don't see how the bedliner you were discussing gets rid of the downsides from both drop in or spray in liners.

Yikes the guys and gals on this list can be your best advertising but not if your 2nd post is cutting down a comment made from one of its members.

"It takes years to get a customer and seconds to lose one".

So blame me not SportF150 for the "cheesy" comment.

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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One thing is painfully obvious when you hang around here for awhile.

1) Both Rhino and LineX have good products if you believe spray-ins in general are a good idea.

2) The salesmen that hang out on this forum each claim the other's product is inferior to their own.

3) Both have nationwide lifetime warranties.

4) Rhino has a coloring system, Linex doesn't; They mix in car paint with their product. This eventually turns your bed into a nice, big corrosives-laden sponge.

5) Both are entrepreneur darlings right now; they're cash cows. The best analogy I've heard is 'the best franchising opportunity since Subway.

Make up your own mind. Personally, I'd spray your bed with good coating of stone guard and put in a drop in. Total cost around $150.

-Fatz.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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This topic came up in conversation last night with an engineer I went to school with quite a few years ago.

The LineX coating is polyurea. Great stuff for sound deadening and anti-skid coatings, but not so good when exposed to certain corrosives including gasoline and anti-freeze. Polyurea is used for this purpose because it looks a whole lot like the other spray ons, but is safer to apply because of the chemical makeup (consequently, it doesn't bond as well)

That list of corrosives is something you'll want to see:




I won't have anything to do with sprayins. I hope this helps change some minds.

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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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I'll have to look up what is in wood stain cause man that is stuck to my linex. I figured it would break down under acetone, etc being just another chemical compound.

Is that the main reason you don't want a spray in?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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MnFatz, that is incorrect information regarding LINE-X. LINE-X is a blend of polyurethane and polyurea. The chemical chart you show is not specific to LINE-X. LINE-X does have a chemical compatibilty chart, it's a pdf file, and I'll be happy to email it to anyone who wants it.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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I would like the pdf.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by TruckGasm
MnFatz, that is incorrect information regarding LINE-X. LINE-X is a blend of polyurethane and polyurea. The chemical chart you show is not specific to LINE-X. LINE-X does have a chemical compatibilty chart, it's a pdf file, and I'll be happy to email it to anyone who wants it.
Of course you do. The local Rhino liner dealer has one as well. I can do my best Karnak the Magnificent impression and magically predict the one I receive from you is favorable to your product, the one I receive from Rhino is favorable to their product.

The difference of couse, is this chemical compatibility chart wasn't produced by either of you, it's made by someone who isn't worried about selling me a spray-in bedliner.

Yes, this is accurate. It's 100% accurate. These are the traits of the polyurea elastomer. These same basic traits persist in whatever compound you put together; hence the corrosive laden sponge I spoke of in an earlier post.

Caveat emptor,

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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I don't think your seeing the whole picture. LINE-X is not polyurea in pure form. It contains polyurethane, pigments, and other components that effect the chemical resistance. As a matter of fact there are two compatibility charts, one for black LINE-X and one for unpigmented LINE-X. The file I emailed is for black LINE-X.

It's a great chart, it shows the results after 48 hours of the chemical being on the liner. It shows, if it discolored, got softer, changed the texture, blistered, swelled, etc.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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I have never hidden the fact that I work for Dualcomp, funny how quick some guys are to try an ambush. Also interesting that SportF150 lashes out at an alternative bedliner manufacturer, but has no issue with the Line-X dealers that are here in force.

What is being offered is an alternative to damaging your paint job, and something that will let your cargo stay where you put it. In the next couple weeks, you will be able to download our video off the internet. It shows the difference between us and the other guys.

Line-X- 37% market share
Rhino- 26.5% market share
Ulitmate- 19.5% market share (Never heard of them)
Speed Liner- 4.2% market share
Everyone Else- 12.7% market share

FYI, these percentages are for spray in only. Drop-ins, which we are not, still dominate the bedliner market.

Jim, sorry for attributing your cheesy comment to SportF150 (sorry to you too SportF150). I stand corrected. As mentioned above, you have many dealers haunting the site, easy enough to mistake someone leaning heavily to a product as being one of them.

I have come here to let you know about the new product available to you. Shortly, there will be "the Dualcomp Challenge" available - a real world, side-by-side comparison.

All I ask is that before you plunk down your hard earned money, you take the time to see all your options.

Bryndon
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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vader - what are you going to do about getting the woodstain off your Line-X? Is it covered under warranty? I just had Line-X sprayed in this weekend. I thought it was supposed to be impervious to everything.
 
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