Do I really need an amp for my door speakers?

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Old 01-01-2008, 11:07 PM
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Do I really need an amp for my door speakers?

Hey, alright, some of you probably know that I have an explorer and not an f-150, but come to this site becuase I love it, and people here actually know what they're doing unlike explorerforums, so, I have two 12 inch subs in the back, with an 800 watt pioneer amp, next, I'm going to put 4 6x8 pioneer speakers in the doors, each speacker can handle 50watts RMS. The amp I'm looking at is 600 watts, but I'm worried about hooking up two amps because I don't want to have to replace my alternator. My head unit is a Pioneer that delivers 50watts per speaker. Could I replace my door speakers, and power them from the head unit, or wuld that sound like some *****. Also, If i did get an amp, would I need a fuse distribution block. Thanks for your help guys
 
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:40 PM
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Why all the Pioneer? There is much better stuff available for the same money.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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if the speakers you are buying can handle 50 wats rms, and the head unit you are going to purchase/already have puts out 50 watts rms, i don't think you'll need an amp. a lot of people on here say, the power sounds cleaner coming from an amp, but i think for the money, what you are doing will work just fine . in my last truck i had 2 ten's and was using the H.U. to power the door speakers (it was an alpine head unit), and it sounded awesome! All i say you needed to watch for is too much bass coming from those twelves, unless of course you are into that.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:36 PM
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i highly doubt his h/u can put out anywhere near 50 watts rms, not possible. maybe 50watts max but headunit power is way overrated
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:51 PM
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he could always bridge the front and rear channels off the head unit and just run to the front channels if he wanted to.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:32 PM
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Thanks a lot for your help guys, and to answer the second guys question, pioneer is american made, so it's made to last. I think I will get both amps, but does anybody have any idea on the best way to hook up two different amps to the same battery? Thanks
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by benkr16
he could always bridge the front and rear channels off the head unit and just run to the front channels if he wanted to.
Very, very bad idea. I would not even attempt this. The little internal power the head unit puts is not designed for bridging at all. And the 50 watts is a max rating. The rms is stated at around 20-22 on Pioneers and that would be stretching it.

I would give it a try using the head unit and if its not enough, get an amp. No point in getting an amp if you do not need it. It's what works for you that matters.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spitfiresk822
Thanks a lot for your help guys, and to answer the second guys question, pioneer is american made, so it's made to last. I think I will get both amps, but does anybody have any idea on the best way to hook up two different amps to the same battery? Thanks
Best way to run amps is run large awg wire from the battery to a distrobution block. It accepts large wire and splits it up to smaller awg to run to the amps. Something like a 4 awg wire in to a distro block with 8 awg out or even 1/0 awg in to 4 or 8 out. Hope that makes sense.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by benkr16
he could always bridge the front and rear channels off the head unit and just run to the front channels if he wanted to.
yeah he could do that...














...if he wanted to blow up his h/u

the internal amps in your h/u are way different than a 4ch/2ch. they are not made to be bridged. way to much of a load on them.
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:54 PM
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An amp is not needed to run the 6x8 speakers, you can run them off factory wiring jusk like stock speakers and will sound fine. I had 4 6x8 pioneer speakers in my ranger in place of stock and they sounded great with 4 10" subs in the back. I did add an amp later on to run the front speakers and put 2 tweeters off the front channel on the H/U and all it does is crank up the volume of the speakers and adds some clarity as well. But all that is not necessary. I also now have 4 6x8 pioneer 4-ways in my F150 with a pioneer H/U and it sounds great, although I miss my subs-I was unable to fit the box i had in my new truck without looking funny

As far as wiring, do as stated above. Run 4 gauge wire to a distribution block and then run 8 guage to each amp. A power capacitor will help to keep strain off your battery and a good battery is recommended to handle the high draw from the amps but you should be alright on your alternator
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:10 PM
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Spitfiresk822...

This thread has been clouded with too much bad advice.

DConder and Scottbigred are right on with there posts.

Email me if you want a good answer to your original question.

Later,
Devildog101
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by benkr16
if the speakers you are buying can handle 50 wats rms, and the head unit you are going to purchase/already have puts out 50 watts rms,
PLEASE. NO AFTMKT HU does 50Wx4 RMS. The new Alpine CDA-9884 doesnt even do that and its power packable. Itll do 45x4 and your supposed to send approx 10 ga to it. (as far as I know now).
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog101
This thread has been clouded with too much bad advice.

Email me if you want a good answer to your original question.
I agree.

Same here if you need advice.

P.S. You can bridge most aftm HU. But not front/rear combinations.
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:28 PM
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hahaha no need to argue guys. I understand the distribution block, but what would I do for fuses, one fuse before the distribution block, or two after it?
thanks again
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:59 PM
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Obviously have a fuse off the battery and most distribution blocks have built in fuse holders-just my .02 but according to others so far

[QUOTE=Devildog101]This thread has been clouded with too much bad advice. QUOTE]

so take it as you wish
 


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