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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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get an amp or no

I only have a standard cab and I put boston accoustic 6x9"s in 2 separate boxes behind the rear seat, and 2 alpine 6.5"s in the doors. Also I have a pioneer 50x4watt head unit. Does anyone think I should get an amp to let these speakers scream more? or does this sound plenty loud for my small enclosure, I was also thinking of maybe more 6x9's in the back, either custom mounted in the rear side panels, or just more boxes.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Is it clear at louder volumes? An amp will help you get the crisp, clean sound at higher volumes better than your HU can. Distortion is your enemy.

If it sounds good to you now & you don't intend on getting a sub or cleaning it up more, then why waste your money?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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True, and yes it is clean and clear at high volumes, but i know with an amp it can go way higher because the nice speakers i have can output maybe up to 200 or 300 watts, and the 6x9's give me enough bass so that i dont need to get subs, and I think 2 more 6x9's would give me amazing bass
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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If your lookin' for more bass, get a sub, not more 6x9s. I used to run 90w RMS to each of my 4 doors, and 300w to my 10" JL Audio sub. It rocked, hard. Clean as can be. BA 6.5" components in the front & 5x7s in the rear for filler sound. Pushing 200-300W to 6x9s is nuts. I'd be shocked if they could handle it and maintain the sound quality.

All powered from my Alpine V12 series amp.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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The only thing is that I dont have enough room for subs in the back besides maybe little 8"ers and I dont want to waste my time or money on that because then thats more money spending on subs + boxes + amps, and that still wont make anymore loudness i dont think,

but hey if I get some money to waste i'll buy 2 8" subs right away and a JL 1000 amp and hook the subs and speakers up to it
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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I had a '97 standard cab w/ a 10" JL audio behind my seat. They don't require much space, you'll have no problem! Also, you'll be taking a good load off the poor 6x9s and let them just handle the mids and highs... the whole system will sound A LOT better. And yes, louder.

Going back to the original post... In your situation I wouldn't add an amp. Unless you wish to take it to the next level - sub & amp. You really can go cheap since you'll only need a 3-channel amp. Scrap any extra 6x9s and just run one in each door and the sub. It'll rock!
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by BlueBeast85F150
The only thing is that I dont have enough room for subs in the back besides maybe little 8"ers and I dont want to waste my time or money on that because then thats more money spending on subs + boxes + amps, and that still wont make anymore loudness i dont think,

but hey if I get some money to waste i'll buy 2 8" subs right away and a JL 1000 amp and hook the subs and speakers up to it

If you come across some money to waste: than waste some on me too.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Ha, ok ok guys. I suppose I can price out some subs and amps and see if the 10"s will fit, but i think i remeber since i have the bench pushed back all the way, tweeter told me i could only fit 8" subs in there, but i will go back and check with them

Thanks for the input
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Ha, ok ok guys. I suppose I can price out some subs and amps and see if the 10"s will fit, but i think i remeber since i have the bench pushed back all the way, tweeter told me i could only fit 8" subs in there, but i will go back and check with them

Thanks for the input
2 8''s can sound real nice under that seat.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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I think I'm gonna go with 2 8" subs because nothing else will fit for sure, if i got anything bigger than an 8, there will be no room for the sub to thump and vibrate, now i just need to find a cheap enough amp without spending a lot of money because I laready found JL 8" subs for $79 a piece
 
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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If you want a cheap amp look at US Acoustics.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Speaking of which, Bartak, is USAcoustics a good brand? Do you have experience with them at all?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Hey bluebeast, check out the phoenix gold TANTRUM AMPS. (check ebay) I just bought a 300.2 for $139 plus ship. on ebay. It produces 326 watts bridged at 14 volts. Or you can go with a mono amp, If your 8's are 4 ohms then you just wire them in parallel amp+ to sub #1 +, then to sub #2 +. Tehn sub #2 - to sub #1 - then back to AMP -

this will make the amp see 2 ohms and produce max output and your 8's will thump! Phoenix gold states the amp's 2 ohm stable. I'm using it to drive 5.25 seperates for the rear of my SCREW, I have an 400.4 bridged to 2 10's for my subs.


The us acustics will work too, and might be cheeper, but your going to have to bridge either a 2 or 4 channel amp to get any power out of it. good luck.
 

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Do you have experience with them at all?
Actually a little. Darn cheap and pretty good. Not the best, but it will do what you want it to (if its resonable of course) and sound pretty good while doing it to.

Havent had anything bad with them. And for the price-they rock.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by BlueBeast85F150
The only thing is that I dont have enough room for subs in the back besides maybe little 8"ers and I dont want to waste my time or money on that because then thats more money spending on subs + boxes + amps, and that still wont make anymore loudness i dont think,

but hey if I get some money to waste i'll buy 2 8" subs right away and a JL 1000 amp and hook the subs and speakers up to it
By what you say, it's obvious to me that you have never heard good 8" subs in action. There are some fine 8" subs. 8" subs are documented to go to 18hz. Not as LOUD at that point as a 12" of equal quality, for instance, but low none-the-less. I find it quite funny that someone considering "6x9s" would be critical of "little 8"ers", as you say. The best 6x9 on earth may be capable of an audible 40hz. On any list of quality car audio speakers there would be zero 6x9s listed. And if you have room to consider more 6x9s, then there is room for some nice little 8"ers. Before you waste any money, you need to step back and PLAN out a system, unless sound quality is of no importance.
 
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