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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 04:36 PM
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2017 F-150 News!




All New 2nd Gen EcoBoost and 10 speed to arrive in the other F-150 models this fall, not just Raptor...

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All-new, 2nd gen 3.5L EcoBoost engine for 2017 F-150 lineup arrives this fall. More than 875K EcoBoost engines sold for F-150 since 2011.

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Mike Stenvold ‏@MikeStenvold Feb 26

@mrlevine 10 speed for all or just Raptor? Anticipation is killing me!
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Mike Levine ‏@mrlevine Feb 26

@MikeStenvold Other F-150 models too. Will have more news to share later.
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***** Persson ‏@wipe50 6h6 hours ago

@mrlevine wrote about this dual injection system seven years ago http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/06...el-engine.html
BobCat requires CGI in the block
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Mike Levine ‏@mrlevine 5h5 hours ago

@wipe50 Sounds familiar! :-)
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Peter Säll ‏@PeterSall 4h4 hours ago

@mrlevine @wipe50 http://www.sintercast.com
#cgi the material for the future. Thanks to #lennartbackerud
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***** Persson ‏@wipe50 7h7 hours ago

@mrlevine I hope the block is made in the same material as their cousins, the 2.7 l EcoBoost and the 6.7 l PowerStroke. CGI The future.
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@mrlevine I'm gonna go broke ��
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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Wonder what exactly makes it "all new"??
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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Wonder what exactly makes it "all new"??
The 3.5 will have the auto start/stop motor feature...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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The "new" 3.5 will not be the same 3.5 or 3.5 EB that is in the current F150. It will be confusing for a while as Ford will have 3 3.5 engines on the parts list. The new engine will have both sequential injection AND direct injection. This solves a lot of problems with deposits forming in the intake and causing issues. Normal driving will see it using the sequential injection and when you need the power, the direct injection kicks in. It should be one of the best engines on the streets when it finally makes it. Construction is CGI.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
Wonder what exactly makes it "all new"??
Everything. It's a completely new engine, with the only thing being the same is the displacement.

I'm sure some parts will be shared, but it is an all new engine, not just an upgrade to the current version.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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Labnerd,
You know this for fact or are you speculating based on Raptor and GT info releases?
I have seen nothing indicating that the engine you mention will be mainstream, only for the Gt and possibly the Raptor.
I will be shocked if Ford makes a dual injection system on the standard 3.5 eco. The cost and complexity would be even farther beyond what they have now.
At the Detroit auto show they had a 3.5 ecoboost on display in front of the raptor. It did not mention if what was the current one or the new 3.5. It was DI only.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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White elephant, I'm in the Cleveland area and the auto show is going on now. The 3.5 EB engine is built here also. Last Friday on the first day of the autoshow they were talking about the all new EB on the local news, they didn't go into detail, but a Ford rep did say it was new and they would add about 150 jobs to the EB line when they start building them.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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I need to pay a visit to the plant to get the inside scoop! Unfortunately I won't be able to share my findings.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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Or, just go to the autoshow and look at the 2017 3.5 EB they have on display.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 07:50 AM
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Or, just go to the autoshow and look at the 2017 3.5 EB they have on display.
Do you know for sure if the engine on display is the 2017? It could be the same one I looked at in Detroit.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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No, I'm not sure. They way they talked about it on the news, they led me to believe it was a 17.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by white elephant
Labnerd,
You know this for fact or are you speculating based on Raptor and GT info releases?
I have seen nothing indicating that the engine you mention will be mainstream, only for the Gt and possibly the Raptor.
I will be shocked if Ford makes a dual injection system on the standard 3.5 eco. The cost and complexity would be even farther beyond what they have now.
At the Detroit auto show they had a 3.5 ecoboost on display in front of the raptor. It did not mention if what was the current one or the new 3.5. It was DI only.
Labnerd, Rambo, Fordman and 05Red are right. Prepared to be shocked.....

2nd gen 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is an all-new engine for *all* F-150 models. Port and direct injection. Raptor has the high output version.

— Mike Levine (@mrlevine) February 26, 2016


Here is an article on it:
http://www.equipmentworld.com/ford-i...-f-150-models/

Labnerd never said it would be the Raptor "high output version." There are two versions. One high output. And one regular output. All are new. And all get port and direct injection. It's all out there black and white clear as crystal!

 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bluegreensf150
Labnerd, Rambo, Fordman and 05Red are right. Prepared to be shocked.....

2nd gen 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is an all-new engine for *all* F-150 models. Port and direct injection. Raptor has the high output version.

— Mike Levine (@mrlevine) February 26, 2016


Here is an article on it:
http://www.equipmentworld.com/ford-i...-f-150-models/

Labnerd never said it would be the Raptor "high output version." There are two versions. One high output. And one regular output. All are new. And all get port and direct injection. It's all out there black and white clear as crystal!

Wow! The sophistication of what Ford is taking mainstream is head and shoulders above the competition. I've told myself that once the 10 speed and gen 2 ecoboost is out that I will finally be getting another truck. Looks like I won't have to wait much longer!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
The "new" 3.5 will not be the same 3.5 or 3.5 EB that is in the current F150. It will be confusing for a while as Ford will have 3 3.5 engines on the parts list. The new engine will have both sequential injection AND direct injection. This solves a lot of problems with deposits forming in the intake and causing issues. Normal driving will see it using the sequential injection and when you need the power, the direct injection kicks in. It should be one of the best engines on the streets when it finally makes it. Construction is CGI.
Wait. I thought these engines didn't have that problem, despite it being a problem with every direct injection only gasoline engine ever built. I know Lexus uses a similar dual injection type system specifically to keep everything clean.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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Wait. I thought these engines didn't have that problem, despite it being a problem with every direct injection only gasoline engine ever built. I know Lexus uses a similar dual injection type system specifically to keep everything clean.
I can't help but wonder if this is overblown. I have over 100k miles on my company issued escape with the 1.6. Runs just as it did (if not better) than on day one with only one non maintenance issue.
 
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