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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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I sure do. '13 was the first year they have offered it. As far as I know, they continued it into '14. Instead of two-tone, they offer the body a single color and sub in a chrome package for the bumpers. The only thing I wasn't thrilled about on the KR was the two-tone. I don't mind it, but when I saw this package, it was perfect for me.
Nice! So I am not too far out of date then, glad you didn't say 2009 . That might make me look into them more. Would love the interior, but I want monotone exterior and painted bumpers. Bumpers I could handle myself though!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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Well let's see ...
  • the fuel gauge (and any calculation based upon it) is not a scientific measuring device. At best it is a SWAG.
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  • you've run the tank down to less than 5 gallons (being generous) of fuel.
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  • there is probably less than 2" of fuel in the tank IF it was level. *Assuming 36 gallon.
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  • you park nose-down on an inclined driveway.
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  • the fuel pump is in the middle of the tank though closer to the rear.
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  • you're confused as to why it wouldn't run and then not start.
HINT/TIP: Have at least a ½ tank of fuel.

A nearly empty tank is not a GOOD way to operate the vehicle.
  • gasoline cools the fuel pump when it's submerged it.
  • over-heated fuel pumps have reduced service life.
  • at that level, you're probably inducing some intermittent fuel starvation to the engine.
  • increased condensation results in water in the fuel tank.
    etc., etc., etc..
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gDMJoe
Well let's see ...
  • the fuel gauge (and any calculation based upon it) is not a scientific measuring device. At best it is a SWAG.
    .
  • you've run the tank down to less than 5 gallons (being generous) of fuel.
    .
  • there is probably less than 2" of fuel in the tank IF it was level. *Assuming 36 gallon.
    .
  • you park nose-down on an inclined driveway.
    .
  • the fuel pump is in the middle of the tank though closer to the rear.
    .
  • you're confused as to why it wouldn't run and then not start.
HINT/TIP: Have at least a ½ tank of fuel.

A nearly empty tank is not a GOOD way to operate the vehicle.
  • gasoline cools the fuel pump when it's submerged it.
  • over-heated fuel pumps have reduced service life.
  • at that level, you're probably inducing some intermittent fuel starvation to the engine.
  • increased condensation results in water in the fuel tank.
    etc., etc., etc..
thanks. Yeah, I just read page 756 in the manual where it says that no Ford F150 should EVER be ran under 1/2 tank of fuel. Man, I really should have read that whole thing before driving. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by il_duce
I just read page 756 in the manual where it says that no Ford F150 should EVER be ran under 1/2 tank of fuel.
You are kidding, right? I didn't see a sarcasm smiley......

The low fuel/fuel pump cooling issue is real, but really only if you run the tank low constantly - such as people who run it down to 5 miles to empty, then only put a few gallons in as a habit.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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Never run it below half a tank? That's a joke and if true, what the hell is the point of a large tank? No
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Hahaha. Yes, I was being sarcastic. No, the manual does not say that. But according to some on here, I guess it should be in the manual. I apologize for the ignorance that I introduced in this thread. In all my stupidity, I just didn't want to believe that having around 5 gallons of gas in a tank and on an incline would have that much of an impact. I did it for years with my '10 and '05, but they didn't have the 36 gallon tank.

I il_duce of F150online.com, do solemnly swear to never run my 2013 Ford F150 to below 1/4 tank of gas again, so help me God.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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It's a joke, in that there is only 591 pages in the 2013 F150 owners manual...

But, on page 203 it says that if you run out of fuel "normally adding 1 gallon of fuel is enough to restart the engine. If the vehicle is out of fuel and on a steep grade, more than 1 gallon my be required."

Good thing to know about the grade part and running around 1/4 tank... Will have to watch that for sure..

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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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That was more in response to Joe's very dry preaching.

1/4 like a lot say seems reasonable, but 1/2 is way too much to keep in the tank
 

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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
That was more in response to Joe's very dry preaching
Haha..hence my response
 
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Haha..hence my response
Not to start a fight about it, but his responses are always very "you're an idiot and here's the easy to understand bullet point spread as to why" and aren't received well.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by il_duce
thanks. Yeah, I just read page 756 in the manual where it says that no Ford F150 should EVER be ran under 1/2 tank of fuel. Man, I really should have read that whole thing before driving. Thanks for the heads up.
I must have the abridged version of the manual. My manual is only 755 pages long.

The way I look at it, run your vehicle however you want to. I know people that throw $5 in their tank all the time and NEVER have a full tank, and they never have issues with fuel pumps dying prematurely, dirt, water or any other myth that people spread with running a tank low.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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FYI, I took delivery on a 2013 and ran the first tank dry on purpose. It holds 36.87 gal. When DTE got to zero I started a two mile stretch with a fuel station in the middle, never more than a mile from the pump. After 33 trips back and forth I gave up and parked it in the drive, nose slightly up. It ran about 20 minutes and died. I started it again make sure it was out. It hit a few turns and quit. I poured in two gallons, started up without hesitation like it had a full tank. I won't run out again but if I'm mistaken I know it will not have a priming issue.

I noticed there is a sump in the back of the tank. That should hold enough fuel to keep it running on a downhill at signal lights, etc. should the tank be real low. When you take off the fuel will rush to the rear filling the sump again. I run my tanks near empty quite frequently. I know exactly how much they hold and how much was in it by what it takes to fill it. All the talk about running low, burning up fuel pumps and getting dirt in the filter is just rumor that has been around I know of for twenty years. I've never had a fuel problem except for the price. I always back into my drive so if I run out during warm up all I have to do is coast across the street into my neighbors drive and have fuel to burn.

I'm on my second tank and will see how accurate the trip fuel counter is at fill up.
If we have an electric fuel pump in the tank, running it dry could be risky. I accidentally ran dry once -- not with a Ford, however-- and the fuel pump burned out, costing me a pretty penny to repair, I can tell you. Let alone the inconvenience. I'll never risk going empty again.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 01:07 AM
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The way I look at it, run your vehicle however you want to. I know people that throw $5 in their tank all the time and NEVER have a full tank, and they never have issues with fuel pumps dying prematurely, dirt, water or any other myth that people spread with running a tank low.
That's been my experience/observation as well. They've never had an issue with it. But I'm sure we'll both catch flak for saying it . . .
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 02:55 AM
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For as many people who say they never had a problem, you will find just as many who say they have.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KMAC0694
That's been my experience/observation as well. They've never had an issue with it. But I'm sure we'll both catch flak for saying it . . .
I know someone that has run out of gas a few times too. From what I remember, they have over 250,000 miles on their vehicle and haven't had to replace the fuel pump. If that means anything, then I don't think we have too much to worry about. If I was paranoid about replacing a fuel pump, then I wouldn't even drive!
 
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