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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Lovin' my 2010 5.4.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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No turbos in stock mean that they have been going through them so then it might not be an isolated incident. I think I will stick with the tried and true 5 liter that has been around awhile. Every time I ask about a truck at a dealership they come trying to sell me an ecoboost for some reason after I ask for the 5 liter.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ScrewedUPF150
No turbos in stock mean that they have been going through them so then it might not be an isolated incident. I think I will stick with the tried and true 5 liter that has been around awhile. Every time I ask about a truck at a dealership they come trying to sell me an ecoboost for some reason after I ask for the 5 liter.
*cough* the EB first came to the market in 2009. The 5.0 came to the market in 2010 *cough*

Or... all of the turbos that Borg Warner can make are being allocated to new production.

Or... there have been so few failures the parts supply chain has not been stocked. Why stock parts that aren't being used?

Really unless you work inside Ford's supply chain you are only talking out of the hole in between your butt cheeks.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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No turbos in stock mean that they have been going through them so then it might not be an isolated incident.
Not necessarily, the 3,500 intercoolers that were on backorder was because the assembly line took priority over the trucks needing the TSB for the new intercoolers. So I would assume that it is the same for the turbos. The assembly line isn't going to slow down for anything, just like the production mill that I work at..
 
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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*cough* the eb first came to the market in 2009. The 5.0 came to the market in 2010 *cough*

or... All of the turbos that borg warner can make are being allocated to new production.

Or... There have been so few failures the parts supply chain has not been stocked. Why stock parts that aren't being used?

Really unless you work inside ford's supply chain you are only talking out of the hole in between your butt cheeks.
good one..........
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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The 5 liter has been in the Mustangs for years Sir. Before the Mustangs became 4.6 they were 5 liter. That was the car to have when I was coming Up.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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The current 5.0 is not even close to the previous 5.0 in design. However, the new one seems to be a very dependable, solid platform.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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The 5 liter has been in the Mustangs for years Sir. Before the Mustangs became 4.6 they were 5 liter. That was the car to have when I was coming Up.
The old motor was actually a 4.9 liter, made from cast iron, used push rods and was designed from Inch standard tooling that was derived from the 302CI.
The new motor is a full 5.0 liters, made from aluminum, uses DOHC, based on metric standard tooling and was in effect a clean sheet design.

This means the two motors do not even have a single interchangeable bolt. How on earth is that the same thing? Your previously mentioned hole is starting to make a stink, please close it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Unbalievable !!! Sorry Dude
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
The old motor was actually a 4.9 liter, made from cast iron, used push rods and was designed from Inch standard tooling that was derived from the 302CI.
The new motor is a full 5.0 liters, made from aluminum, uses DOHC, based on metric standard tooling and was in effect a clean sheet design.

This means the two motors do not even have a single interchangeable bolt. How on earth is that the same thing? Your previously mentioned hole is starting to make a stink, please close it.
not one bolt? you better wipe after that statement
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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not one bolt? you better wipe after that statement
The old Windsor based motor was designed using inch fasteners, the Coyote motor uses metric fasteners. Unless you like cross threading your bolts the two do not work. Now add to that, the rods, crank and pistons are all completely different so none of those will work. The heads are completely different push rods vs DOHC require completely different sized fasteners. The induction system is all different, the Coyote motor does not use a distributor and the accessories on the front of the motor have all changed. About the only similarities would be the Ford logo on the motor and the air the motor uses. Today's gas is even different than what was used back then.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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I was just playing but they do have clamps and they will interchange maybe
 
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
The old motor was actually a 4.9 liter, made from cast iron, used push rods and was designed from Inch standard tooling that was derived from the 302CI.
The new motor is a full 5.0 liters, made from aluminum, uses DOHC, based on metric standard tooling and was in effect a clean sheet design.

This means the two motors do not even have a single interchangeable bolt. How on earth is that the same thing? Your previously mentioned hole is starting to make a stink, please close it.
Both engines are 302 cubic inches so no, one is not 4.9L while the other is 5.0L. They are both 4.95L engines. You usually round up the size, so they would both be 5.0L engines.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Both engines are 302 cubic inches so no, one is not 4.9L while the other is 5.0L. They are both 4.95L engines. You usually round up the size, so they would both be 5.0L engines.
Ummm no, the Windsor iron block motor had a bore of 4.000" and a stroke of 3.000" This gives an actual displacement of 301.593Ci or 4.942L. The rules for rounding are to round up if the value is 50 or greater. It is a 4.9L motor.

The Coyote motor has a bore of 92.2mm (3.629 in) and stroke of 92.7mm (3.649 in). A little math gives a volume of 4.951L (301.944Ci) which in this case is correctly rounded to 5.0L. The Coyote series are actually an update to the Triton series of Ford engines.

at this point only a damn fool would continue to compare the Windsor engine to the Coyote.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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The only reason they called the 302 a 5 liter was to differentiate it from the 4.9 liter inline 6.
 
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