Throttle response
Throttle response
The truck: 2010 F150 SCREW Lariat 4x4
The problem: Poor throttle response
This truck has the throttle response of a cruise ship...you roll on the gas and you get nothing. If I'm doing 30 and ease on the gas to pass someone it feels like a full two seconds before i get anything out of the truck. Its like a giant dead spot. Even if i mash the gas there is a significant delay before it does anything.
I could live with this for a while but now it's really beginning to bother me. In your opinion what is the best way to improve throttle response? I don't want to spend 2 grand on this but I'm willing to spend some money. If it takes too much id just as soon sell the truck and get a machine that acts right.
I realize that this might be a case of engineered inefficiency by the manufacturer to make parts last longer (ie fewer power train warranty claims)...thoughts on this are welcome as well.
The problem: Poor throttle response
This truck has the throttle response of a cruise ship...you roll on the gas and you get nothing. If I'm doing 30 and ease on the gas to pass someone it feels like a full two seconds before i get anything out of the truck. Its like a giant dead spot. Even if i mash the gas there is a significant delay before it does anything.
I could live with this for a while but now it's really beginning to bother me. In your opinion what is the best way to improve throttle response? I don't want to spend 2 grand on this but I'm willing to spend some money. If it takes too much id just as soon sell the truck and get a machine that acts right.
I realize that this might be a case of engineered inefficiency by the manufacturer to make parts last longer (ie fewer power train warranty claims)...thoughts on this are welcome as well.
2010 4.6 SC built in September with about 2500 miles and no 1-2 clunk so far.
Last edited by Joe Rotax; Dec 3, 2010 at 11:09 PM.
I've had my 2010 FX4 for 2 weeks and I had the same complaint with throttle responsiveness. I ordered a SCT with custom tunes from 5-Star Tuning. I received it today and I loaded the "87 octane performance" tune and it's a different truck. I went for a 50mi run playing with the throttle and I am very happy so far.
I've never owned an F-150 (my 2011 is in transit) but have seen this with GM trucks. A tune can theoretically cure it. I run EFILive on my current 04 Sierra and I believe the default setup was to wait 1-2 seconds before going from closed loop to open loop at WOT (depending on RPM). On the GM it was called "PE delay" (power enrichment). Mine is now 0 seconds, i.e., WOT = I want full power, go open loop and go rich NOW. I still have no clue why manufacturers do this, but I know GM made it even *worse* on the 07-current models. Not sure if Ford does this, but I can see some tuners not addressing it...on the GM side you needed a good non-handheld tuner like EFILive or HPTuners to kill it IIRC.
Ford (and the other OEM's) conduct a lot of focus group reviews on driving habits, etc... The last I read, the majority buyers of Ford F-150's are females in their 30's-40's. Rapid throttle response isn't a priority for the vast majority of truck owners.
If you are a business owner, you cater to your most profitable customers, and tailor your products to those people. Most everyone on here are already well outside the normal customer. We are much more heavily involved in the modification, use, and care of our vehicles. I'd also guarantee we have a higher warranty cost per vehicle, since we are more particular... Slightly off topic, but does explain a little of why throttle response is the way it is.
I've had 15-20 different people drive my truck, and didn't get a single comment on the throttle response. The most common response was the size of the mirrors or the heated seats. Goes to show what people like and don't care about...
If you are a business owner, you cater to your most profitable customers, and tailor your products to those people. Most everyone on here are already well outside the normal customer. We are much more heavily involved in the modification, use, and care of our vehicles. I'd also guarantee we have a higher warranty cost per vehicle, since we are more particular... Slightly off topic, but does explain a little of why throttle response is the way it is.
I've had 15-20 different people drive my truck, and didn't get a single comment on the throttle response. The most common response was the size of the mirrors or the heated seats. Goes to show what people like and don't care about...
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Ford (and the other OEM's) conduct a lot of focus group reviews on driving habits, etc... The last I read, the majority buyers of Ford F-150's are females in their 30's-40's. Rapid throttle response isn't a priority for the vast majority of truck owners.
If you are a business owner, you cater to your most profitable customers, and tailor your products to those people. Most everyone on here are already well outside the normal customer. We are much more heavily involved in the modification, use, and care of our vehicles. I'd also guarantee we have a higher warranty cost per vehicle, since we are more particular... Slightly off topic, but does explain a little of why throttle response is the way it is.
I've had 15-20 different people drive my truck, and didn't get a single comment on the throttle response. The most common response was the size of the mirrors or the heated seats. Goes to show what people like and don't care about...
If you are a business owner, you cater to your most profitable customers, and tailor your products to those people. Most everyone on here are already well outside the normal customer. We are much more heavily involved in the modification, use, and care of our vehicles. I'd also guarantee we have a higher warranty cost per vehicle, since we are more particular... Slightly off topic, but does explain a little of why throttle response is the way it is.
I've had 15-20 different people drive my truck, and didn't get a single comment on the throttle response. The most common response was the size of the mirrors or the heated seats. Goes to show what people like and don't care about...
If I am driving and see an F150 -- about a 5% chance there's a woman driving it.
I'd be curious to see where that is documented. Regardless, I agree with you. The throttle response bugs me about 1% of the time .. although I would like it to be better, I'm not worried about it.
x2!
if your truck is equipped with drive by wire, improvements will be much better throttle response, step on go pedal, vehicle will respond quicker...this dbw system is a torque driven system, it works by taking a certain amount of torque via engine and wheel and applies it to what the driver foot say it needs; a better way to explain it is its a torque limiter. It only allows so much torque at a given pedal position. Stock tables are conservative and numb at best and that's why one would feel some times a lag or a goofy pedal with dbw systems. For a 3v 5.4l v8 this is one of the most critical areas that must be addressed and modified to generate more torque and throttle response. By reworking the oem strategies makes your 5.4l seems as if 2 more cylinders were added over night and have much better throttle response!
I also have a September build 2010 SCREW with the 5.4 and my truck started out with a delay in acceleration at first, but has improved and is mostly non-existent now. Acceleration when passing is very good with no lag what so ever. The only time it lags some from a dead stop is when the traction control kicks in when the tires try to spin.
I never had any acceleration problems, just shifting issues which were corrected with a second PCM reflash. Now it upshifts and downshifts smoothly and hasn't had the hunting problem between first and second that it used to have. Don't settle for them saying that "they all do that."


