New 2010 dissapointing purchase
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at that time i vowed to never buy another ford. i test drove all the other trucks except for the Jap mods. the hemi had a very nice motor and the GM/Chevy was 2nd. the ford motor sucks as does the throttle response. I ended up with a 2010 f150 4x4 crew cab with a 6.5' bed and the 5.4. with the 373 rear. The sticker was $48.000.00 i paid $44,000.00 here in NJ. 2 reasons i bought the ford, cargo room in the cabin and 0% financing.
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On most all the programmers you will need to use 91 or 93 for most performance obviously. But I think a quality tune will provide the much better feel of the throttle that the factory drive by wire makes the truck feel sluggish. Just the throttle response on my tune makes the tune worth it. It feels better all over. Yeah, its not the big numbers the diesel has, but it isn't bad.
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The thing is, Ford has always been a year or two behind when it comes to horsepower increases. It seems as if they have had a philosophy of design first and and horsepower second. Ever since 67 when they introduced the 390 truck engine into Mustang and called it a GT. GM had the 396 which blew the doors off of the Mustang. Chevy had a 454 in a truck long before Ford answered with a 460. Ford introduces a new Mustang in 2005 that blew everybody away in design alone but was still tame when it came to horsepower. Now finally, a couple years after we have big HP from the Camero and Challenger does Ford introduce a new engine with 400+ for the GT. Same with its line of trucks. Always a couple years late.
Then again Ford didn't take any bail out money, and the other two did. Maybe their philosophy is what really works. Design first, horsepower second.
Then again Ford didn't take any bail out money, and the other two did. Maybe their philosophy is what really works. Design first, horsepower second.
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Ok guys, this is my first posting. regarding the 2010's. i've been a powerstroke guy for 14 yrs when deisel fuel was cheap and we were getting 22mpg at 80mph all day long. After ford destroyed the powerstroke with 13 mpg and fuel prices up, lastly 2 head gasket repairs...i got rid of it. at that time i vowed to never buy another ford. i test drove all the other trucks except for the Jap mods. the hemi had a very nice motor and the GM/Chevy was 2nd. the ford motor sucks as does the throttle response. I ended up with a 2010 f150 4x4 crew cab with a 6.5' bed and the 5.4. with the 373 rear. The sticker was $48.000.00 i paid $44,000.00 here in NJ. 2 reasons i bought the ford, cargo room in the cabin and 0% financing. About me, im an retired GP motorcycle racer. now at 49 yrs old i still know and love speed which is why im so utterly dissapointed with the motor in my truck. my deisel's in the past have all had at least 400hp & 400ft lbs torque with mods. this f150 is a dog. by the time it gets up & goes, you could easily be dead from another vehicle crashing into you. with all this said, i recently put a leveling kit on the front and im thinking about a few mods to this to improve anything regarding throttle response. Here's where i could use some input. i was told the exhaust is severly restricted. they say to change from from the cat back. my concern is i dont want a loud system and when one does a better flowing system one should do a better breathing system...NO? which intake is the best for this pooch. lastly does anyone have any input on superchips programmers. i used it on my deisels. there's a few programs but i dont want to have to use 91 octane, that 'll get expensive as this pooch averages about 13 or 14 mpg as it is now. im having trouble believing anyone is getting 22 with this engine. either way, if you have helpful input,i'd appreciate it.
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International destroyed the diesel not Ford.
rtr, too bad you couldn't wait until the new 2011 comes out. You'd be impressed with the new power train. If you liked the power of the old 6.4, you'd love the new one. It's far quicker and yields out more mpgs than any diesel in the Superdutys. There is nothing you're ever going to do to the 5.4 to make you happy. To make the 5.4 pull decent for the amount of power yer accustomed to, it'll burn gas like it was free. I'd just about make a bet that if the money is available, you'll be driving a new Superduty in a year or less.
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What a load of crap. I only had to read the first 5 lines. First of all fella you purchased a truck and not a race car! Trucks are design for work, not the race track. There's no factory truck built that I would class as fast. You could have spent a lot less and had a vehicle that could do 0-60 in under 4-5 secs if you wanted fast. I will never understand why people complain about a truck being slow after they buy it when they knew full well they were buying a truck! Buy the vehicle that is designed to do what you want from it. I would goto an Audi forum and complain that an Audi rs6 couldn't tow my construction trailer and I would goto a yamaha forum and complain my r1 was no good off road. Think before you buy.
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With the small amount of upgrades I have on my truck, it runs away from a stock truck. Exhaust, intake and tune is your best bet. I do agree with everyone else though with respect to your comparisons. You are probably gonna be better off complaining somewhere else. I wouldnt trade my KR for anything else except a newer one.
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I understand where you are coming from with all of this. My buddy has a 04 F-250 with programmer, intake, exhaust lift and 35s. His truck pulling his boat will smoke my truck with nothing on the back. Today I was leaving a intersection with my 2 jet skis on the back and I had to merge pretty quick. I could really feel the 2200 pounds on the back of my truck. Even my girlfriend made a comment saying Mikes truck would of already had us home by now, lol. The diesels are in a world of their own and no gas engine will ever compare to one. With all of that said the F-150 is a very well built truck and im happy with mine. It could just use a little more power but then again everything could use more power.
Just because some of us like our trucks to have a little bit of power doesnt mean that were all about racing our trucks. Its nice when you have a load in the back and you can still push the go pedal and still get up and go.
Just because some of us like our trucks to have a little bit of power doesnt mean that were all about racing our trucks. Its nice when you have a load in the back and you can still push the go pedal and still get up and go.
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Funny how I have never had a problem with speed even when towing my 7500lb trailer with my platinum which of course is one dam heavy truck. I have to get on some pretty short and steep on ramps in some areas I work and I have no problem merging. Merging requires more than speed. Too many times do I see people going 80 mph on the on ramp and are not ready to merge at 50-60mph and then end up stopped at the yield sign waiting for traffic to clear. I would love to know how all these people with cars that do 0-60 in the 10-20 secs range are able to drive everyday! Because they get by just fine. Remember guys driver skill is much more important than speed.
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should have waited until 2011.... 6.2L!! hopefully it goes in an f150. a guy at work has it in a superduty and he loves it...he went from a v10 to it and says it has plenty of power. He does traffic control and says he has plenty of power to tow and get up and go in and out of traffic.....
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Funny how I have never had a problem with speed even when towing my 7500lb trailer with my platinum which of course is one dam heavy truck. I have to get on some pretty short and steep on ramps in some areas I work and I have no problem merging. Merging requires more than speed. Too many times do I see people going 80 mph on the on ramp and are not ready to merge at 50-60mph and then end up stopped at the yield sign waiting for traffic to clear. I would love to know how all these people with cars that do 0-60 in the 10-20 secs range are able to drive everyday! Because they get by just fine. Remember guys driver skill is much more important than speed.
Sure its now race car, if you want a fast grocery getter go buy a Ram. Otherwise enjoy your F150.
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damn boys..dont you have lives? its not like im talking about your moms. i just commented on the poor throttle response which is more than likely related to the neaderthal drive by wire system ford has. no one ever said im racing it but when i need to get up and go...i'd expect it to. especially for the $44,000.00. Yes, im guilty of owning chipped deisels, AMG Benz's, motorcycles, and so forth but compared to what im used to...its a pooch. for those of you who have'nt had the experience of driving a vehicle that impresses you...well, then i feel for you. READ THE POST....im dissapointed, thats all. To those of you who support my feelings and actually know what im saying, then yes, had i known about the 6.0, i would've waited. then again, the first year is never a good one so maybe its best to deal with it and move on in 2 years. can we now end this thread.......