Ecoboost F-150 Confirmed !
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This sounds real good for mileage and putting a high reving smaller engine in a car with big HP numbers is great. However, will these work for truck applications, such as hauling and towing? First, what kind of boost lag is there? What are the torque numbers? I already think the 4.6 is weak in the torque department. I guess those who never pull anything will like the V-6.
The EB V6 will probably be good for fleet trucks like AT&T and Cable Companies that don't really pull anything or haul much around besides tools and small stuff in the bed. Around here AT&T uses a lot of Reg Cab Long Bed V6 F150s with utility caps. I have never seen one with a trailer hitch on the back. If they need to move trailers they have bigger trucks for that.
In fleet applications it would be great because they don't need power or speed, they just need to get from A to B using as little gas as possible.
Last edited by 08stx4x4; 04-12-2010 at 04:43 PM.
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They have been saying a 20% MPG improvement, which would take the 14city now and bring it to 16.8city (rounded up to 17city). That's why my guess is 17city for the F150 EB.
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That would be beyond incredible. As much as I would love that to ever happen, here's what I believe will happen:
They have been saying a 20% MPG improvement, which would take the 14city now and bring it to 16.8city (rounded up to 17city). That's why my guess is 17city for the F150 EB.
They have been saying a 20% MPG improvement, which would take the 14city now and bring it to 16.8city (rounded up to 17city). That's why my guess is 17city for the F150 EB.
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Same, I've been seeing more and more of those things popping up around town. The more I see companies using those the less of those stupid Scion Xbs I've seen too. At least the small businesses are buying American again.
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This sounds real good for mileage and putting a high reving smaller engine in a car with big HP numbers is great. However, will these work for truck applications, such as hauling and towing? First, what kind of boost lag is there? What are the torque numbers? I already think the 4.6 is weak in the torque department. I guess those who never pull anything will like the V-6.
The 3.5L EB is, in the public's eyes, unproven in real world towing and hauling applications. But I do remember seeing some 3rd party Torque and HP charts for the 3.5L EB in the Lincoln cars when they came out with it some time ago. The torque curve is flat, broad, and starts early; which is great for towing.
From what I read, the 3.5L EB is detuned for these front-drive vehicles. The F150's running gear should prove stout enough for Ford to loosen it up a bit, bringing it closer to the 400HP 400lb/ft TQ it projected several months ago.
I think we'll all know more once Ford announces the 2011 models and we can see what options will be available with the EB V6. IMO, I think it will do just as well as the current engines with sufficient cooling. I'm also strongly considering this engine for my new F150 when they come out, pending that it looks good on paper.
Torque and HP Curves on Lincoln MKS and MKT with 3.5L EB Read the review too. It'll give you an idea of what the power characteristics are like.
Last edited by Dunesgirl; 04-12-2010 at 09:00 PM.
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The 3.5L EB is, in the public's eyes, unproven in real world towing and hauling applications. But I do remember seeing some 3rd party Torque and HP charts for the 3.5L EB in the Lincoln cars when they came out with it some time ago. The torque curve is flat, broad, and starts early; which is great for towing.
From what I read, the 3.5L EB is detuned for these front-drive vehicles. The F150's running gear should prove stout enough for Ford to loosen it up a bit, bringing it closer to the 400HP 400lb/ft TQ it projected several months ago.
I think we'll all know more once Ford announces the 2011 models and we can see what options will be available with the EB V6. IMO, I think it will do just as well as the current engines with sufficient cooling. I'm also strongly considering this engine for my new F150 when they come out, pending that it looks good on paper.
Torque and HP Curves on Lincoln MKS and MKT with 3.5L EB Read the review too. It'll give you an idea of what the power characteristics are like.
From what I read, the 3.5L EB is detuned for these front-drive vehicles. The F150's running gear should prove stout enough for Ford to loosen it up a bit, bringing it closer to the 400HP 400lb/ft TQ it projected several months ago.
I think we'll all know more once Ford announces the 2011 models and we can see what options will be available with the EB V6. IMO, I think it will do just as well as the current engines with sufficient cooling. I'm also strongly considering this engine for my new F150 when they come out, pending that it looks good on paper.
Torque and HP Curves on Lincoln MKS and MKT with 3.5L EB Read the review too. It'll give you an idea of what the power characteristics are like.
Diesel like torque curve, now that's great
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It would most certainly have to be geared differently. There would have to be an entirely different driving program than the taurus.
But let me tell you, the supercharged SHO engine is Awesome. I took the 2010 SHO out for a rip over a month ago, and it packs a mean punch... however, I cant see it being anywhere near 26MPGs... maybe 21-22 in a truck this big... maybe
But let me tell you, the supercharged SHO engine is Awesome. I took the 2010 SHO out for a rip over a month ago, and it packs a mean punch... however, I cant see it being anywhere near 26MPGs... maybe 21-22 in a truck this big... maybe
It's not supercharged, it's a twin turbo direct injection V6.
Last edited by °°Pat°°; 04-13-2010 at 09:36 AM.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/21/f...arbox-for-201/
The next thing the F-150 needs is the Power Shift transmission ! Somewhere I have read that it can be made to handle high torque truck engines.
The next thing the F-150 needs is the Power Shift transmission ! Somewhere I have read that it can be made to handle high torque truck engines.
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[quote] Come 2010, Ford promises that a longitudinal version of the EcoBoost V6 will find a home in the F150 pickup (and most likely in the Mustang eventually, as well). We've already driven an early prototype F150 with EcoBoost, and while it was far from finished, our initial impression was positive. In fact, it boredered on "Who needs a V8?" [quote]
Nice. Thanks for the link, Dunesgirl.
Nice. Thanks for the link, Dunesgirl.
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I'd be willing to bet that people who need pulling power will still buy the trucks with V8s in them.
The EB V6 will probably be good for fleet trucks like AT&T and Cable Companies that don't really pull anything or haul much around besides tools and small stuff in the bed. Around here AT&T uses a lot of Reg Cab Long Bed V6 F150s with utility caps. I have never seen one with a trailer hitch on the back. If they need to move trailers they have bigger trucks for that.
In fleet applications it would be great because they don't need power or speed, they just need to get from A to B using as little gas as possible.
The EB V6 will probably be good for fleet trucks like AT&T and Cable Companies that don't really pull anything or haul much around besides tools and small stuff in the bed. Around here AT&T uses a lot of Reg Cab Long Bed V6 F150s with utility caps. I have never seen one with a trailer hitch on the back. If they need to move trailers they have bigger trucks for that.
In fleet applications it would be great because they don't need power or speed, they just need to get from A to B using as little gas as possible.
on the note of the EB... the SHO is 365hp, twin turbo. they arent really putting out too much boost since two turbos are only adding about 100hp to the engine. even if it was a single turbo it wouldnt be a whole lot either. but with the f150, the early reports were that there would be an EB 3.5L V6 at around 350HP and around a 2.5L 4cylinder at around 250HP. no word on if they are keeping the V8s or still going ahead with the 4banger. maybe the manual tranny will return....i hope, but it is doubtful. should be interesting to see in the months ahead to see what they do.