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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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What upgrades work with the warranty?

I opted into an extended 7year bumper to bumper warranty. But of course i want some pipes, air intake and stuff.

what can be done?

 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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I'm sure the issue of aftermarket accessories possibly voiding your warranty hasn't ever been discussed before...
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Are you serious, im clear lots of aftermarket items void warranties, im also clear dealers and Ford recognize the potential of aftermarket performance enhancing items that they will warranty. The search tool is a great feature, and ive used it many times, and im sure we have hit on this topic before. But how about you let me post my questions without the idiotic replies, and get some real information from those who have done what im asking!

BTW i think i know how this whole f150 forum thing works anyway, so take your 223 post and 6 month membership to this forum elsewhere where it might be usefull.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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They will have to prove that the mod in question caused the problem that you may have before they can void the warranty. An air intake and exhaust really can't hurt anything unless the piping is too close to something and melts it. And the intake won't improve performance any at all. Just make more noise and lead u to believe you are "faster"
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Then maybe be more specific than "what can be done" - are you asking "is there a list of items that I can install that will 100% not cause me any warranty problems?" The answer to that would be no. It seems like you've answered your own question here.

Obviously you recognized this as a problem since you had your dealer do your lift and tires install - given that we've established warranty problems can vary on a dealer-to-dealer basis, perhaps this question would be better pointed at someone at your dealer familiar with their warranty policy and history of aftermarket parts/warranty issues.

In short, here's your definitive answer:

The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any damage caused by:
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis,
or components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor
Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or
with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not
limited to exhaust and intake systems)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part (other than
a certified emissions part) or any part (Ford or non-Ford) designed
for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of
Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part
to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized
tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting
systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or
software and performance ‘‘chips’’
The bottom line is that your dealer can deny you warranty if and when they feel like it under reasonable circumstances. If they choose to, however, the responsibility falls to you to decide whether or not you want to fight them tooth and nail to provide warranty coverage on a given issue. Sure, you might be in the right, but it'll cost you a ton of time and probably money to really take the dealer to task about something like that. Some aftermarket manufacturers have experienced a lot of these issues and will try to negotiate with the dealer themselves but you can't rely on them always.

(dang you only have twice as many posts as me but you've been here 10 times as long! :P)
 

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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(dang you only have twice as many posts as me but you've been here 10 times as long! :P)
First of all the title is "what upgrades work with the warranty", pretty specific, maybe i should refrase it so you dont post another idiotic post that got you to 223post u have now (quality over quantity).

so here is a refrasement...What upgrades have you guys done that Ford dosnt have a probem with... does that sound better?
ie..flowmaster over magnaflow, airraid over k&n.

lets not go back and forth over this, and just let the reason for this website do what its suppose to do
 

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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statikuz answered your question. I added the highlight for emphasis.
Originally Posted by statikuz
Then maybe be more specific than "what can be done" - are you asking "is there a list of items that I can install that will 100% not cause me any warranty problems?" The answer to that would be no. It seems like you've answered your own question here.

Obviously you recognized this as a problem since you had your dealer do your lift and tires install - given that we've established warranty problems can vary on a dealer-to-dealer basis, perhaps this question would be better pointed at someone at your dealer familiar with their warranty policy and history of aftermarket parts/warranty issues.....

The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any damage caused by:
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis,
or components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor
Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or
with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not
limited to exhaust and intake systems
)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part (other than
a certified emissions part) or any part (Ford or non-Ford) designed
for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of
Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part
to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized
tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting
systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or
software and performance ‘‘chips’’
Unfortunately, Ford doesn't make performance parts for their vehicles like GM does (ie. GM Performance Parts).

In reality, it comes down how your service advisor/manager views mods (like statikuz states).
 

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Come on guys, i know these things vary. i am just trying to find out what other people have done without problems...and then i will confirm it with my dealer.

which is why i refrased, hoping i would get responces from people who have actually gone thru this with there truck. not what the fine print says.
 

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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What upgrades have you guys done that Ford dosnt have a probem with... does that sound better?
ie..flowmaster over magnaflow, airraid over k&n.
Well see the problem with this is that it isn't a Ford global policy - they don't state "K&N voids your warranty while Airraid doesn't." Just like big ole truck said, there's as many variables as there are Ford dealers in the US. I'm not being smart when I tell you to go talk with someone at YOUR dealer's service department and I'm sure they can give better advice here. Just because someone else's dealer didn't deny them warranty coverage because they had installed part X doesn't mean that yours can't or won't.

Just like I quoted out of the Ford Warranty Guide - basically there are NO aftermarket parts that are covered by the Ford warranty. This isn't that complicated. Whether or not they will deny you coverage for part Y because you installed part X is totally up to them.

And it's "rephrase." Make this Quality Post #227!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Wow i give up. If anybody else would like to comment on what they have personally done please let me know. in the end i will verify with my dealer anyway, just wanted an idea. Im not interested in a lesson on warranties, i have my owner's/warranty manual for that.

im not knocking you two guys for your post, thanks for your input, i was looking for examples of what other f150 online users have done
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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ruffn-it, maybe I'm not understanding what you are seeking. Are you asking if some had good experiences with aftermarket parts like mufflers or air intakes?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Im interested in hearing from people who have put on aftermarket stuff under warranty and what their personal dealer has agreed too. Again I know dealer approval of these aftermarket stuff will vary, and i will check mine prior to any install. I just wanted to start looking into what other guys have done, and what "crap" they have gone through to get it.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Best thing to do is find a dealership that will actually install aftermarket parts. My dealer has it's own speed shop where they will outfit Mustangs with everything Roush has to offer and they'll install lifts, tires, exhaust, etc. in or on whatever vehicle you have. Of course they want to charge and arm and a leg. I was quoted $699 for a front spacer lift installed with a front end alignment. Seemed a little steep to me since you can get spacers usually for under $100.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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yea, my dealer frequently installs those upgrades on the mustangs, and even lifts on the f150's and 250's. I had to talk them down on the fabtech lift they installed on my truck, they definitely mark that up.

they are the next place im going to start asking for upgrades.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by statikuz
Then maybe be more specific than "what can be done" - are you asking "is there a list of items that I can install that will 100% not cause me any warranty problems?" The answer to that would be no. It seems like you've answered your own question here.

Obviously you recognized this as a problem since you had your dealer do your lift and tires install - given that we've established warranty problems can vary on a dealer-to-dealer basis, perhaps this question would be better pointed at someone at your dealer familiar with their warranty policy and history of aftermarket parts/warranty issues.

In short, here's your definitive answer:



The bottom line is that your dealer can deny you warranty if and when they feel like it under reasonable circumstances. If they choose to, however, the responsibility falls to you to decide whether or not you want to fight them tooth and nail to provide warranty coverage on a given issue. Sure, you might be in the right, but it'll cost you a ton of time and probably money to really take the dealer to task about something like that. Some aftermarket manufacturers have experienced a lot of these issues and will try to negotiate with the dealer themselves but you can't rely on them always.

(dang you only have twice as many posts as me but you've been here 10 times as long! :P)
FYI, emission controls is not the entire exhaust system. Catalitic converters, O2 sensors and your MAF are.

Bottom line, be straight with your dealer and they will go an extra mile for you. So dealers will allow aftermarket, some will not. Typically, the ones who will not are just sticklers for OEM parts... cause thats what they sell.

Call you dealer find out there opinion, and maybe call a few more dealers near you for theirs. Cant hurt. I know my dealer is fairly lenient. Almost every truck in town has an exhaust systems, large tires and lifted or leveled. My dealer has raised no issues with my 2.5" leveling kit, 33x12.5 muds. I have not done an exhaust on my 09, but my 03 had one and they loved the truck. Actually one of the service managers son bought the truck from me. Its all going to be circumstantial with your specific dealer.
 

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