2009 - 2014 F-150

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Old 04-08-2008, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LARIAT CHROME
Whats the deal with the Ecco Boost and the deisel engines Ford has been talking about???

I'll look into it so sit tight
 
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Originally Posted by Tornadom
This is largely on account of the 10.5" rear axle and 7 lug heavy duty package. If you ommit that from the F150 lineup, it is comparable to all of the other 1/2 ton pickups in payload, and actually slightly behind the Toyota for towing. However, Ford does offer this package and it enables your 1/2 ton pickup to do things that were unheard of even for a 3/4 ton pickup of years past. Props to Ford for keeping their blue collar roots.

I agree that the Fords are the toughest regardless of model, payload package or motor, and are available in the most cab and bed configurations. There is a reason that I drive an F150. Hell my 1998 F150 base model (it didn't even say XL on the badges), regular cab longbed lasted me 198,000 miles. The 4.2L v6 had enough get up and go to pull the motorcycles around, and even towed a small travel trailer with the beast. It got great mileage too (3.07 gears helped).
You take out the HD F150 and compare 2008 4wd crew cabs and our tow rating falls behind everyone except Dodge. So while Ford can claim highest tow rating in the F-150 thats quite misleading given the % of people looking for a reg cab and a trim level no higher than XLT. Its virtually all for marketing. Might it be 1%.... Probably much less.
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Kid
You take out the HD F150 and compare 2008 4wd crew cabs and our tow rating falls behind everyone except Dodge. So while Ford can claim highest tow rating in the F-150 thats quite misleading given the % of people looking for a reg cab and a trim level no higher than XLT. Its virtually all for marketing. Might it be 1%.... Probably much less.
If thats the case then all companys are misleading fact is, ford has a truck that can do that if you need it.
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:39 PM
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Hmm. Well...

It's peanut butter jelly time
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:50 PM
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we know its butt ugly, thats enough for me
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:52 PM
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Hey BeyondLimitz, what are they testing the 2009 F150 around Groom Lake?
How are you getting this info?
 
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RYAN24
If thats the case then all companys are misleading fact is, ford has a truck that can do that if you need it.

Why? Gm/Toyota/Nissan you can all get their highest advertised tow rating in 4wd crew cabs?
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:00 AM
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Well I'm happy to know that my F-series is the best selling and most powerful, best hauler etc.

Oh did I say F-series which includes 150,250,350,450,etc. Now thats some marketing.
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:43 PM
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The only way you can get the same towing capacity on a gm is with the "max"towing package on either extended or crew cab models. Read the fine print. It's also a 1800$ option and gives you the same 6-lug axle size and ring gear that the F-150 comes standard with. So comparing a standard gm 1500 with the 5.3L LS (equivelent to an XLT with to and go), then no, towing is not equal.
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:59 PM
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If we're in the mood for guessing, let me guess as well...

5.4L 2v to 5.4L 3v, 260hp to 300hp = +40hp

5.4L 3v to 5.4L 3v (with same CAI as 300 hp Expy) 300hp to (310 hp - 320 hp) :o
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh M
The only way you can get the same towing capacity on a gm is with the "max"towing package on either extended or crew cab models. Read the fine print. It's also a 1800$ option and gives you the same 6-lug axle size and ring gear that the F-150 comes standard with. So comparing a standard gm 1500 with the 5.3L LS (equivelent to an XLT with to and go), then no, towing is not equal.
Well thats the whole point! Gm offers that pkg so what. Should we compare a std ford with a 4.6L then too?

The point is I can get a GM crew that has a tow rating of 10,500 and the power to do it. With a Ford crew and 18 or 20" wheels which is 95% of them I can tow amx 8800
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:45 PM
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Who knows, maybe the 6-speed mated with the same old 5.4l will produce some noticable pickup when merging from a stop... ... .. .. . .

I think we'll either have to wait for independant auto sites to start test-driving them, or hear from some Ford employee's like DD who have some limited access to driving them.
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Kid
Well thats the whole point! Gm offers that pkg so what. Should we compare a std ford with a 4.6L then too?

The point is I can get a GM crew that has a tow rating of 10,500 and the power to do it. With a Ford crew and 18 or 20" wheels which is 95% of them I can tow amx 8800
Yes but at what cost? A LS 1/2 ton gm with that package has a really high msrp. I specked one out and I could get it for around 8,000 off msrp when i was in the market and it was going to be around 32,000$ for an extended cab with the max package and around 33,000$ for a crew cab. I can tell you right now that you can buy an 07 F-250 power stroke new for about 33,000.$ So why would you pay that much for a 1/2 ton?
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:51 PM
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You are comparing a fully decked out half ton to a stripped down, no a/c no cruise 3/4 ton that has been languishing on the dealerships lot for over a year.

You can easily spend $33,000 on a F-150 as well.
 
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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Im sorry but if your going to tow 10000 lbs then buy the right truck for the job. Ford Dodge and Chevy make HD type trucks for that reason. There marketing plan against toyota should be your single tundra might pull 10500 but or line of F series can tow what ever you can throw at it. Then have all the F series trucks in a line.

My boss just traded his 2500hd chevy in for a F-450 dually because his 2500 was at it max with his new fifth wheel now he can tow it full and not have to worry about the weight.
 


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