Whos got the REAL HP numbers for this 2009 F-150?
#181
I don't know why so many people are bashing the 5.4L which i think has more than enough power the way it is. I hope ford doesn't get caught up the horsepower war just keep making trucks with impressive low end torque which has been working for the past 33 years. Their is a reason the f-series has been the best selling pickup in the world that long. I say if it ain't broke don't fix it.
The only thing I would like ford to improve on is fuel economy, that is why all my mods have been an attempt to improve mpg's not power and speed.
The only thing I would like ford to improve on is fuel economy, that is why all my mods have been an attempt to improve mpg's not power and speed.
#182
Originally Posted by justjoecrabb
I don't know why so many people are bashing the 5.4L which i think has more than enough power the way it is. I hope ford doesn't get caught up the horsepower war just keep making trucks with impressive low end torque which has been working for the past 33 years. Their is a reason the f-series has been the best selling pickup in the world that long. I say if it ain't broke don't fix it.
The only thing I would like ford to improve on is fuel economy, that is why all my mods have been an attempt to improve mpg's not power and speed.
The only thing I would like ford to improve on is fuel economy, that is why all my mods have been an attempt to improve mpg's not power and speed.
#183
Originally Posted by Tbird69
The 5.4 is a good engine-unloaded. Put 6K on the hitch and it's a different game, passing and merging becomes unnerving. The 3v 5.4 gets the load moving well enough but the torque is pretty much done by 2500 RPM. The problem for Ford is that they can't keep building the lowest HP trucks and expect to stay #1.
#184
#185
Originally Posted by Tbird69
The 5.4 is a good engine-unloaded. Put 6K on the hitch and it's a different game, passing and merging becomes unnerving. The 3v 5.4 gets the load moving well enough but the torque is pretty much done by 2500 RPM. The problem for Ford is that they can't keep building the lowest HP trucks and expect to stay #1.
Very well said!
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Put 8k on the hitch and its even more evident!
#188
Originally Posted by LARIAT CHROME
Its no secret that the 5.4 is an outdated under powered gas guzzeling dinosaur that needs to be put down and thats what Ford is doing come 2010.
Just too bad Ford has to suffer a year with the old crap engine lineup before they can get out of their contract (was my understanding that's what was keeping them tied up in same engine components until a certain date or they would get hit $$$ hard by breaking contract with suppliers) or whatever is keeping them stuck, and get the new engine lineup in there. The '09's sure seem to be an odd launch with people not sure if it's a refresh or a remodel, why it has old engines, why new engines are staggered the next couple years rollout, etc. What an odd launch all around. :o
#189
Originally Posted by LARIAT CHROME
Its no secret that the 5.4 is an outdated under powered gas guzzeling dinosaur that needs to be put down and thats what Ford is doing come 2010.
Blake
Last edited by birddog_61; 03-26-2008 at 07:04 PM.
#191
5.4 safe merging? ... seriously?
You feel safe merging into traffic with the current 5.4 in the '04-'08 lineup? Thing can't get out of it's own way. I could care less about speed, but punching the 5.4 and trying to move out of it's own shadow while merging can be a scary propsition, especially going onto the highway or other major roadway. Merging sucks with the 5.4.
Those who want speed is another matter. I could care less. How often do you go over 40-50 anyways? Occasionally on the highway, perhaps. Could give a rat's &^% how fast it can go, just want some safe merging power.
2009 is dead to me with the same crap engine. Looking forward to hearing more about the 2010 powertrain lineup!
Those who want speed is another matter. I could care less. How often do you go over 40-50 anyways? Occasionally on the highway, perhaps. Could give a rat's &^% how fast it can go, just want some safe merging power.
2009 is dead to me with the same crap engine. Looking forward to hearing more about the 2010 powertrain lineup!
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#192
Originally Posted by CometFlash
You feel safe merging into traffic with the current 5.4 in the '04-'08 lineup?
The 4.6 does it fine, but the 5.4 has that much more punch.
Last edited by last5oh_302; 03-26-2008 at 11:28 PM.
#193
Originally Posted by CometFlash
You feel safe merging into traffic with the current 5.4 in the '04-'08 lineup? Thing can't get out of it's own way. I could care less about speed, but punching the 5.4 and trying to move out of it's own shadow while merging can be a scary propsition, especially going onto the highway or other major roadway. Merging sucks with the 5.4.
Those who want speed is another matter. I could care less. How often do you go over 40-50 anyways? Occasionally on the highway, perhaps. Could give a rat's &^% how fast it can go, just want some safe merging power.
2009 is dead to me with the same crap engine. Looking forward to hearing more about the 2010 powertrain lineup!![thumbsup](https://www.f150online.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Those who want speed is another matter. I could care less. How often do you go over 40-50 anyways? Occasionally on the highway, perhaps. Could give a rat's &^% how fast it can go, just want some safe merging power.
2009 is dead to me with the same crap engine. Looking forward to hearing more about the 2010 powertrain lineup!
![thumbsup](https://www.f150online.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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#194
#195
Originally Posted by CometFlash
Perhaps I just got a defective F-150. Although by the sheer number of posts I've read here over the past 5 years or so, I see that I am certainly not alone in this issue, not by a very long shot. ![Coffee](https://www.f150online.com/forums/images/smilies/coffee.gif)
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