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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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does anyone know of a place to order replacement fuel injectors for a good price?...i keep seeing these threads about 05 injector problems....and its making me nervous....
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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I was reading this and same as you getting worried. Googled around till I found this place.
www dot frtruckparts dot com
I've never delt with them, but pricing does not seem too bad.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by averagejoe074
does anyone know of a place to order replacement fuel injectors for a good price?...i keep seeing these threads about 05 injector problems....and its making me nervous....
www.tascaparts.com or www.rockauto.com
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Also note that this is my wife's DD. In talking with her the other night she did mnetion there were a couple of hard starts in the week or so prior to this happening. This also seems to be one of the key symptoms prior to failure.

So, I am getting the heads re-worked and inspected. Checking for bent valves or any other damage and replacing the cam phasers. At the end of the day we will have a nearly new engine.

Dealer also notes that there are no issues for when/if the cat or 02's code out as they are 100% covered. But, Ford will not replace them until they code.

Dealer has been awesome and Ford is also covering the rental car.

Through all of this I do have to say that Ford has been awesome (so far) on all of this. No dragging it out. We had an answer in less than 48 hours and the work began.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VanWaF150
Thanks for the reply!

Did you do anything to the heads before putting them on the new block? How was your cat and 02 sensors?

With this happening and installing updated cam phasers I expect this engine to last quite a long time with no issues.
Nothing done to heads and no cat or o2 sensor changes. No cam phaser changes. They're noisy at warm idle but the truck runs great, just need to get the plugs changed again and she'll be golden again.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 02:48 AM
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I keep the old injectors in a box just in case...!
Just in case you feel like rolling the dice with the "bogus, landfill injectors" OR maybe hitting yourself in the head with a hammer? (whichever comes 1st.) Dude, I can't fathom why anyone would keep those injectors around other than to remind themselves how lucky they were that "IT" didn't happen to them. They're trash! That's what they made trash cans for, stuff like those injectors.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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You don't know him. He means 2800 on the truck. He has a Mustang with less than that. His daily driver is two different Rangers.
I guess if I knew him I wouldn't have used a question mark in my post. It was just speculation.

2800 miles.....that is amazing. My elderly mother has a 93' S10 Blazer stored in a garage with less then 20K.....still smells new.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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I decided to replace my injectors to avoid the headache and possible breakdown. Cost was just about $200.00 and the install took about 1.5-2 hours...mostly spent removing things to make room. I keep the old injectors in a box just in case...!
wouldn't it make more sense to keep a new set for that "just in case"?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
wouldn't it make more sense to keep a new set for that "just in case"?
Here's my take on the '05 injector problem:
Since this is a known issue, I think it makes most sense to install the new injectors rather than get stuck on the side of the road, especially if I'm on a road trip and the family is with me.

But in the unlikely event one of my new injectors gets stuck open and hydrolocks my motor, I'm SOL with the warranty. So if needed, I will reinstall the old injectors and tow it back to the dealer. Sure they'll test it but I will cross that bridge if and when I need to... But eh, they're small and there are only 8 of them so they fit nicely in the spares-drawer in the toolbox.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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I did not change out my injectors in my 2005 as I wanted to take advantage of the warranty should one fail. At 120,000 miles, since the warranty was out, I talked to my service manager at the dealer and he said that he would not change them if it were him. If they had lasted to 120,000 then a new one was just as likely to fail. I sold the truck at 135,000 and still no issue.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StoveTop
Here's my take on the '05 injector problem:
Since this is a known issue, I think it makes most sense to install the new injectors rather than get stuck on the side of the road, especially if I'm on a road trip and the family is with me.

But in the unlikely event one of my new injectors gets stuck open and hydrolocks my motor, I'm SOL with the warranty. So if needed, I will reinstall the old injectors and tow it back to the dealer. Sure they'll test it but I will cross that bridge if and when I need to... But eh, they're small and there are only 8 of them so they fit nicely in the spares-drawer in the toolbox.
if you're out of warranty then do whatever you please...
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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Nothing done to heads and no cat or o2 sensor changes. No cam phaser changes. They're noisy at warm idle but the truck runs great, just need to get the plugs changed again and she'll be golden again.
Awesome! Race ya?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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Some interesting discussion here...

Since we have had this happen we keep running into more and more and more people that have has this same issues with fuel injected motors from nearly all manufacturers.

A question I would like to ask at this time: What manufacturer, other than Ford, on planet Earth, has a 120,000 mile warranty on their fuel injectors, with the backup of complete replacement of all items damaged because of the failure?

Yes this whole thing sucks. A few of us know how bad is sucks firsthand, but it could be waaaaaay worse.

Ford coulda bailed on the whole thing and we would have been screwed. Fighting lawyers guns and money....

I'm lookin' to have this 2005 until at least 2020 or hopefully longer.

Still love the truck and when she gets back home will probably do the interior LED upgrade.

And the VAST majority of my cars have been foreign.

Would I buy another Ford tomorrow?

Yes, but it would not be an eco-boost. Too new. But that distrust applies to ANY manufacturer and not just Ford. Look at what Toyota went through recently...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
if you're out of warranty then do whatever you please...
That's just it, I had ~67k when I swapped them and now have ~73k, well within the original extended warranty. I just need to hang onto those old injectors for another 45k! But to comment on Bluejays post, most '05s out on the road today have a lot of miles on them so it may not make sense to swap out their injectors. But those with lesser miles like mine, it just seems like cheap insurance to me.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:38 AM
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=VanWaF150;4780901]Some interesting discussion here...

Since we have had this happen we keep running into more and more and more people that have has this same issues with fuel injected motors from nearly all manufacturers.

A question I would like to ask at this time: What manufacturer, other than Ford, on planet Earth, has a 120,000 mile warranty on their fuel injectors, with the backup of complete replacement of all items damaged because of the failure?
I don't think Ford did it voluntarily, I think they were sued. Not very many auto companies step up to the plate and "DO THE RIGHT THING", most are forced to. And you are correct, a lot of companies have had problems with injectors from time to time but most of them don't end up in catastrophic engine failure like Ford's have. And probably not as wide spread as Ford's (Bosch) failure on the '05. They probably tried to make 'em cheaper somehow and ended up in this fiasco.
 
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