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anyone else seen allot of junk in their trans pan when changing the filter?

Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:24 AM
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anyone else seen allot of junk in their trans pan when changing the filter?

i did the trans filter and 5 quart fluid change at 50k. truck is now at 58k and i decided to it again tonight so its on schedule with my 30k maintenance, i plan on doing it every 30 from here on out. when i did it at 50 it was decently dirty, good build up on the magnet and backing of the filter was lightly coated in black stuff. when i did it tonight after 8k miles, it wasnt as bad, but still had build up on it.

friends got a crown vic that said his was quite clean when he did his, and it definatly had more than 30k on that. so in 8k miles my trans had more build up than some do at 30k + miles

the way these transes shift, all granny like, does that produce more clutch material build up than normal cars? will my gryphon im getting soon reduce this? i feel like im going to be out of clutch material to tear up soon
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:02 AM
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Mine had a bunch of crap on the magnet (looked like a little mountain on top of it) when I dropped it at 31K and that was only 1K miles after having it flushed at 30K. I was a bit shocked. The filter, valve body and pan all had a dark film on them that I wiped off with a rag before installing the new filter. My trans later went bad at 66K miles and I had to have it rebuilt! Never again!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by whitecrystal1
Mine had a bunch of crap on the magnet (looked like a little mountain on top of it) when I dropped it at 31K and that was only 1K miles after having it flushed at 30K. I was a bit shocked. The filter, valve body and pan all had a dark film on them that I wiped off with a rag before installing the new filter. My trans later went bad at 66K miles and I had to have it rebuilt! Never again!
you had your trans flushed? There's your problem. Should always do the fluid exchange, much better for your transmission. A flush usually includes washing the transmission out with detergents, which if not properly drained before the transmission is filled will cause issues and rapid deterioration of the transmission. Doing a fluid exchange forces all the old fluid out due to the presence of new fluid, meaning the only thing in your transmission is transmission fluid.

besides, if you don't own your F-150 anymore, why do you troll around on here?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 06bluemeaniexl
you had your trans flushed? There's your problem. Should always do the fluid exchange, much better for your transmission. A flush usually includes washing the transmission out with detergents, which if not properly drained before the transmission is filled will cause issues and rapid deterioration of the transmission. Doing a fluid exchange forces all the old fluid out due to the presence of new fluid, meaning the only thing in your transmission is transmission fluid.

besides, if you don't own your F-150 anymore, why do you troll around on here?
Troll? so you have to own one to be a member? I like this site sorry if I offended you. Just trying to post help with my experience where I can. My tranny was serviced at my Ford dealer so it may have been a flush or fluid exchange, not really sure now. That was around 2008 or 9
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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yes, it is trolling, all i've seen out of you post wise has been how bad of an experience you had, blah blah blah... get over it.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 06bluemeaniexl
yes, it is trolling, all i've seen out of you post wise has been how bad of an experience you had, blah blah blah... get over it.
Yes sir
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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Jees, WC. If you don't know the facts about what you're talking about then don't say it. There's enough confusion on this board, no need adding to it. People come here for correct answers and advice.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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Jees, WC. If you don't know the facts about what you're talking about then don't say it. There's enough confusion on this board, no need adding to it. People come here for correct answers and advice.
Only fact I stated was what mine looked like when it I dropped it how I maintained it and that it later failed? OP did ask if anyone else was seeing this in their pans. I did with mine
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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fivespeedsteed, here is a how to I posted a while back with pictures of mine. Gives you something to compair yours too. https://www.f150online.com/forums/tr...8-5-4l-3v.html
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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I found your post helpful. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by whitecrystal1
Mine had a bunch of crap on the magnet (looked like a little mountain on top of it) when I dropped it at 31K and that was only 1K miles after having it flushed at 30K. I was a bit shocked. The filter, valve body and pan all had a dark film on them that I wiped off with a rag before installing the new filter. My trans later went bad at 66K miles and I had to have it rebuilt! Never again!
Your trans went bad because you wiped the inside surface of your transmission with a rag. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER wipe the inside of your transmission with a rag!
Only use a new small parts cleaning brush, solvent and air to dry.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Your trans went bad because you wiped the inside surface of your transmission with a rag. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER wipe the inside of your transmission with a rag!
Only use a new small parts cleaning brush, solvent and air to dry.
Vaild point. but technically it was a blue shop towl but that did not kill my Drum. That is a weak link in these transmission. They have proven to have fail with even fewer mileage than mine had
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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atleast you didnt find metal!

https://www.f150online.com/forums/tr...al-my-pan.html
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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My transmission is having some issues and when I had the pan dropped they didn't find any metal, but they said they found what appeared to be "clutch material". I'm only at 62k miles and will more than likely be replacing the tranny this year.

Originally Posted by 06bluemeaniexl
yes, it is trolling, all i've seen out of you post wise has been how bad of an experience you had, blah blah blah... get over it.
Maybe that's because you weren't around between 2006-2010 to see any of his other posts. The link he posted to his thread (https://www.f150online.com/forums/tr...8-5-4l-3v.html) probably has better info than anything you've ever posted.

Don't be a d-bag just because he bought something besides a Ford. It makes you sound like a little whiny fanboy elementary school kid.

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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Vaild point. but technically it was a blue shop towl but that did not kill my Drum. That is a weak link in these transmission. They have proven to have fail with even fewer mileage than mine had
I read your write up about trans service, which was a great write up. I noticed one thing though. The pan was absurdly clean when you dropped it. The magnet was not, which was to be expected. You had it dealer "flushed" before the service. If the trans was reverse flushed, it would have tended to drive the dirt out of the trans into the waste oil receptacle. If it was not reverse flushed and pumped into the trans the normal way, the filter would have been at LEAST partially blocked by the sediment.

So, my observation is that when a trans is "flushed", it would take a considerable amount of pressure from the flushing machine to insure the pan end up to be that clean. Not to get into whether the tech hooks it up correctly or not, my question then is, what did that abnormal amount of pressure do to the workings of the trans?

I know firsthand that there can be a lot of pressure used to flush a trans. A fellow worker with me had a dealer flush out a Contour trans and the procedure blew out a "weak" spot on the outer wall of the trans. I, personally, don't trust the "flush" concept. I have a feeling that many trans problems down the road are caused by this procedure.
 
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