Who knew? I sure didn't.
What should be made illegal is the use of bright lightbars on top of cop cars. Not only are they very dangerous to people that have epilepsy, but they are so blinding that people without any vision problems have troubles seeing what is ahead of them, which could be a police officer out in the middle of the road.
I see their point as they want to be seen, but there comes a point in where too much is just too dangerous.
I see their point as they want to be seen, but there comes a point in where too much is just too dangerous.
I've done the Bambi mod as well (required to run bi-xenon HIDs and HID fogs).
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What should be made illegal is the use of bright lightbars on top of cop cars. Not only are they very dangerous to people that have epilepsy, but they are so blinding that people without any vision problems have troubles seeing what is ahead of them, which could be a police officer out in the middle of the road.
I see their point as they want to be seen, but there comes a point in where too much is just too dangerous.
I see their point as they want to be seen, but there comes a point in where too much is just too dangerous.
Last edited by radar's FX4; Jan 26, 2011 at 02:50 PM.
Yea, Plano is nice. This actually happened up in Princeton though. Little old country town. Think I found their only police officer.
Passed hundreds of Plano/Murphy cops in last few years and never once been stopped.Anyhoo, just unhooked the KC's from the fog lights. Will probably wire them up to a switch on the dash, or maybe even sell em. Several mods I'm wanting to do and just don't have the money to do.
Yea, Plano is nice. This actually happened up in Princeton though. Little old country town. Think I found their only police officer.
Passed hundreds of Plano/Murphy cops in last few years and never once been stopped.Anyhoo, just unhooked the KC's from the fog lights. Will probably wire them up to a switch on the dash, or maybe even sell em. Several mods I'm wanting to do and just don't have the money to do.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a law in any state that you can't have more than 4 running lights on. What wattage are your lights on your bar? Personally I wouldn't find running any lights like that no matter what wattage safe. Even at 35w, the reflectors are not made to have cut-off which means they can be blinding to small cars.
The only time my lights get used is with brights. Plus I'm not one of those people that wait till the last second to turn brights off, or turn brights on if there is a car in front of me. Those two things really erk me haha.
The only time my lights get used is with brights. Plus I'm not one of those people that wait till the last second to turn brights off, or turn brights on if there is a car in front of me. Those two things really erk me haha.
Damn well I'm screwed then.. I just got stationed here in TX 2 months ago but the cops haven't given me any trouble yet. My headlights are halogen but my 4 Hella's on my light bar are all HID.
Drive home from basketball practice last night. Got pulled over by a cop for having more then 4 lights on on the front of my truck. Texas law apparently. And for the lights being too bright? No HID's, just regular off brand ultra white bulbs.
Go figure.
Guess I have a weekend project on my hands.
Go figure.
Guess I have a weekend project on my hands.
He meant no more than 4 general illumination lights lit at once to the front, includes low beams, high beams, fog lamps, driving lamps. You can have two head lamps and two fogs lit at once.
With HIDS, unless they are an approved device for that housing and you can show it's approval, not legal here either. Those blue look headlight bulbs, illegal.
Turn signal and marker lights are not for general illumination.
Vehicles here will not pass state inspection if they are capable of having more than 4 lit at once. That's why with a 4 headlamp system as used to be popular, fog lamps could only be installed to work with low beams. You could not even have driving lights or a passing light with the 4 head light system as those were high beam type lights.
Now, few vehicles have more than two head lamps, so you can run fogs with high beams to fill in, my '07 is set up that way.
But running two headlamps and 4 other aftermarket or the factory fogs and two aftermarket fog or driving lights is 6 and we wrote tickets for it and as far as I know, my old buddies still do.
I've mentioned it several times here in this and other forums, often to get "poo-poohed" by the kids and never a Thank You from anyone because the posters didn't know of anyone being stopped. I ain't the one paying the tickets so I stopped worrying about it.
It ain't only Texas and Virginia. They are "universal lighting laws" so that generally, what's legal in Va. is legal in Tx. is legal in Ws.
Virginia Code Sections ... http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...10000000000000 ... and you can look up your state's laws online or in a library or call your local State Police or Highway Patrol office and they'll help you with where to look.
§ 46.2-1020. Other permissible lights.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with fog lights, not more than two of which can be illuminated at any time, one or two auxiliary driving lights if so equipped by the manufacturer, two daytime running lights, two side lights of not more than six candlepower, an interior light or lights of not more than 15 candlepower each, and signal lights.
The provision of this section limiting interior lights to no more than 15 candlepower shall not apply to (i) alternating, blinking, or flashing colored emergency lights mounted inside law-enforcement motor vehicles which may otherwise legally be equipped with such colored emergency lights, or (ii) flashing shielded red or red and white lights, authorized under § 46.2-1024, mounted inside vehicles owned or used by (a) members of volunteer fire companies or volunteer rescue squads, (b) professional fire fighters, or (c) police chaplains. A vehicle equipped with lighting devices as authorized in this section shall be operated by a police chaplain only if he has successfully completed a course of training in the safe operation of a motor vehicle under emergency conditions and a certificate attesting to such successful completion, signed by the course instructor, is carried at all times in the vehicle when operated by the police chaplain to whom the certificate applies.
Unless such lighting device is both covered and unlit, no motor vehicle which is equipped with any lighting device other than lights required or permitted in this article, required or approved by the Superintendent, or required by the federal Department of Transportation shall be operated on any highway in the Commonwealth. Nothing in this section shall permit any vehicle, not otherwise authorized, to be equipped with colored emergency lights, whether blinking or steady-burning.
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with fog lights, not more than two of which can be illuminated at any time, one or two auxiliary driving lights if so equipped by the manufacturer, two daytime running lights, two side lights of not more than six candlepower, an interior light or lights of not more than 15 candlepower each, and signal lights.
The provision of this section limiting interior lights to no more than 15 candlepower shall not apply to (i) alternating, blinking, or flashing colored emergency lights mounted inside law-enforcement motor vehicles which may otherwise legally be equipped with such colored emergency lights, or (ii) flashing shielded red or red and white lights, authorized under § 46.2-1024, mounted inside vehicles owned or used by (a) members of volunteer fire companies or volunteer rescue squads, (b) professional fire fighters, or (c) police chaplains. A vehicle equipped with lighting devices as authorized in this section shall be operated by a police chaplain only if he has successfully completed a course of training in the safe operation of a motor vehicle under emergency conditions and a certificate attesting to such successful completion, signed by the course instructor, is carried at all times in the vehicle when operated by the police chaplain to whom the certificate applies.
Unless such lighting device is both covered and unlit, no motor vehicle which is equipped with any lighting device other than lights required or permitted in this article, required or approved by the Superintendent, or required by the federal Department of Transportation shall be operated on any highway in the Commonwealth. Nothing in this section shall permit any vehicle, not otherwise authorized, to be equipped with colored emergency lights, whether blinking or steady-burning.
§ 46.2-1030. When lights to be lighted; number of lights to be lighted at any time; use of warning lights.
A. Every vehicle in operation on a highway in the Commonwealth shall display lighted headlights and illuminating devices as required by this article (i) from sunset to sunrise, (ii) during any other time when, because of rain, smoke, fog, snow, sleet, insufficient light, or other unfavorable atmospheric conditions, visibility is reduced to a degree whereby persons or vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 500 feet, and (iii) whenever windshield wipers are in use as a result of fog, rain, sleet, or snow. The provisions of this subsection, however, shall not apply to instances when windshield wipers are used intermittently in misting rain, sleet, or snow.
B. Not more than four lights used to provide general illumination ahead of the vehicle, including at least two headlights and any other combination of fog lights or other auxiliary lights approved by the Superintendent, shall be lighted at any time. However, this limitation shall not preclude the display of warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027, or other lights as may be authorized by the Superintendent.
C. Vehicles equipped with warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027 shall display lighted warning lights as authorized in such sections at all times when responding to emergency calls, towing disabled vehicles, or constructing, repairing, and maintaining public highways or utilities on or along public highways, except that amber lights on vehicles designed with a ramp on wheels and a hydraulic lift with a capacity to haul or tow another vehicle, commonly referred to as "rollbacks," need not be lit while the vehicle is in motion unless it is actually towing a vehicle.
D. The failure to display lighted headlights and illuminating devices under the conditions set forth in clause (iii) of subsection A of this section shall not constitute negligence per se, nor shall violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section constitute a defense to any claim for personal injury or recovery of medical expenses for injuries sustained in a motor vehicle accident.
E. No demerit points shall be assessed for failure to display lighted headlights and illuminating devices during periods of fog, rain, sleet, or snow in violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section.
F. No citation for a violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section shall be issued unless the officer issuing such citation has cause to stop or arrest the driver of such motor vehicle for the violation of some other provision of this Code or local ordinance relating to the operation, ownership, or maintenance of a motor vehicle or any criminal statute
A. Every vehicle in operation on a highway in the Commonwealth shall display lighted headlights and illuminating devices as required by this article (i) from sunset to sunrise, (ii) during any other time when, because of rain, smoke, fog, snow, sleet, insufficient light, or other unfavorable atmospheric conditions, visibility is reduced to a degree whereby persons or vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 500 feet, and (iii) whenever windshield wipers are in use as a result of fog, rain, sleet, or snow. The provisions of this subsection, however, shall not apply to instances when windshield wipers are used intermittently in misting rain, sleet, or snow.
B. Not more than four lights used to provide general illumination ahead of the vehicle, including at least two headlights and any other combination of fog lights or other auxiliary lights approved by the Superintendent, shall be lighted at any time. However, this limitation shall not preclude the display of warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027, or other lights as may be authorized by the Superintendent.
C. Vehicles equipped with warning lights authorized in §§ 46.2-1020 through 46.2-1027 shall display lighted warning lights as authorized in such sections at all times when responding to emergency calls, towing disabled vehicles, or constructing, repairing, and maintaining public highways or utilities on or along public highways, except that amber lights on vehicles designed with a ramp on wheels and a hydraulic lift with a capacity to haul or tow another vehicle, commonly referred to as "rollbacks," need not be lit while the vehicle is in motion unless it is actually towing a vehicle.
D. The failure to display lighted headlights and illuminating devices under the conditions set forth in clause (iii) of subsection A of this section shall not constitute negligence per se, nor shall violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section constitute a defense to any claim for personal injury or recovery of medical expenses for injuries sustained in a motor vehicle accident.
E. No demerit points shall be assessed for failure to display lighted headlights and illuminating devices during periods of fog, rain, sleet, or snow in violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section.
F. No citation for a violation of clause (iii) of subsection A of this section shall be issued unless the officer issuing such citation has cause to stop or arrest the driver of such motor vehicle for the violation of some other provision of this Code or local ordinance relating to the operation, ownership, or maintenance of a motor vehicle or any criminal statute
What about those vehicles that have headlights with a row of LED's on them (Audi and other cars, some aftermarket lights). Technically each LED is a light, correct? If so there's plenty of illegal vehicles rolling around in Texas.
LED is a diode, not a light :o
I think people are thinking about it to hard. No more then 4 luminous devices that project light forward can be on at a time. This includes, headlights, fog lights, driving lights.
Most off-road lights people put on their trucks are not legal for use on public road to begin with. So even if you have 2 head lights and 2 off-road lights your still considered illegal.
I would hope that no one ever runs their off-road lights when passing on-coming traffic or behind another car. This is very blinding no matter it be 35w or 150w. Especially if people have put HID's in their off-road lights. If you do please go outside and turn them on then sit down in a lawn chair, or even on the ground and see how blinding they are. You'd be pi$$ed if you were on the other end of that situation.
Most off-road lights people put on their trucks are not legal for use on public road to begin with. So even if you have 2 head lights and 2 off-road lights your still considered illegal.
I would hope that no one ever runs their off-road lights when passing on-coming traffic or behind another car. This is very blinding no matter it be 35w or 150w. Especially if people have put HID's in their off-road lights. If you do please go outside and turn them on then sit down in a lawn chair, or even on the ground and see how blinding they are. You'd be pi$$ed if you were on the other end of that situation.
I would hope that no one ever runs their off-road lights when passing on-coming traffic or behind another car. This is very blinding no matter it be 35w or 150w. Especially if people have put HID's in their off-road lights. If you do please go outside and turn them on then sit down in a lawn chair, or even on the ground and see how blinding they are. You'd be pi$$ed if you were on the other end of that situation.
Oh well, my bad for not knowing the law so can't complain. Officer was cool and let me go with warning, and I've already disconnected the lights. Just deciding what I want to do now.






