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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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I thought I read somewhere that 60's are good for about 800 crank hp. If you really are trying for 1050 at the crank, you're gonna need bigger than that.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
Well Id like to keep the whipple as it was 5 grand (hah). However, a STS turbo goes directly into the throttle body which I would have go directly into the whipple. Id probably run a ford gt fuel pump to huge injectors with a injector driver like you said.

Im now wondering what 8 PSI on a stroked 6.36L would make power wise.

Injectors in a diesel are VERY different then in a Gas motor. For huge gas injectors its probably 400-600 a set of 8.
ya. diesel injectors are insanely expensive compared to gas trucks. are you saying that you want to use an sts turbo to spin your whipple? if so, this may be a problem due to the turbo compressing air faster than the supercharger can handle. you could possibly lose horsepower and money if the setup ended up working this way. but i really hope you accomplish your goal as mine for some point in my future is quite similiar. good luck man!!! i'll be tuned in as you continue in your venture.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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No, the whipple will spool the large turbo up quicker, as the supercharger dies out in the higher RPM, the Turbo will really take over and give it that extra kick. In reality the supercharger only works part of the RPM band and the Turbo works the rest although they work together at the same time.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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One hell of a pipe dream.

Do you also plan to daily drive a 1000 hp car?

I've been there in the mustang world and it is far from a daily drivable car. The big fuel pumps you'd need for that power make soo much dam noise and heat the fuel up really bad. There are just soo many little things that become a major PITA when reaching that 1K number. Your daily driver then turns into a weekend warrior.

I'd just build the block and throw 16 psi at it. I'd guess in the range of 600 rwhp on a safe tune and can drive anywhere, in any heat, on any gas.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Someone (I think it was hellion turbo systems) put a twin turbo system on a stock terminator cobra using a compound boost setup (turbos feeding the s/c) and made some insane boost # in the manifold and put down ~1100 at the wheels.

Reaching the 1K power level can easily be done with turbos or a compound setup but I have to agree with sbchris, it more than likely will be unusable as a DD. Not to mention you will have a hard time trying to get a tranny that will survive.
 

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Ah well, I think Ill try that stroker kit and stick with the stock whipple. Atleast that way I have a built bottom end that can easily handle the power, and then the next thing would be tranny.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 02:17 AM
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You should ask whipple if you could maybe trade in your blower for a 3.3... Man what a beast that would be.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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I talked to the engine builder he said he can get a block for $250. So I plan on the stroker, doing heads and keeping the blower and going more boost.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Anyone recommend a fully built 4R7x trans? I want one that can withstand power.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Anyone recommend a fully built 4R7x trans? I want one that can withstand power.
Make your PCM think you have a manual tranny and get an external auto transmission controller with a 4R100.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
(Some have reached over 1000HP with stock fuel and block with twin turbos).
Could you be more specific when you say "stock fuel" ?

It is IMPOSSIBLE to attain 1000hp with a stock fuel system. A stock fuel system could not support anywhere NEAR that sort of power due to volume delivery, injector size, pump capacity.....there are a hundred reasons why this is not possible.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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go to dirty dog on tccoa.com forums. he is one of the best there is. RAFA ended up going to him. he can build one that will take ANY power you can make.


this thread is the performance that is possible with this motor on stock heads with cams and good intake with forgings.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=556770


he ran 11.40's before he pulled the motor.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
Could you be more specific when you say "stock fuel" ?

It is IMPOSSIBLE to attain 1000hp with a stock fuel system. A stock fuel system could not support anywhere NEAR that sort of power due to volume delivery, injector size, pump capacity.....there are a hundred reasons why this is not possible.
Look up Joes Twin Turbo Ford GT. Everything is stock but the twin turbos instead of a blower. He gets into 1000HP before needing to upgrade. Hence why I was thinking of taking the stock GT parts.

Yea I was going to dirty dog for a converter, Ill have to talk to him about a full blow trans!
 

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Take a look at Josh's truck over on NHTOC. He just took the world's fastest Harley Davidson F-150 title away from Johnny Lightning Perofrmance:

http://www.nhtoc.com/vbforum/2000-20...1-126-mph.html
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
Look up Joes Twin Turbo Ford GT. Everything is stock but the twin turbos instead of a blower. He gets into 1000HP before needing to upgrade. Hence why I was thinking of taking the stock GT parts.

Yea I was going to dirty dog for a converter, Ill have to talk to him about a full blow trans!
AHHHHHHHHH

Statement recanted then.

I was not thinking "Ford GT" when you clearly typed "Ford GT". I was thinking Mustang GT....:o

The Ford GT already has some very serious race parts installed and can support that sort of power upgrade without too many mods.

Get ready to take out a loan though. 1000 RELIABLE HP is expensive regardless of which route you take to achieve it. My Mustang is making roughly 650FWHP (makes 540rwhp) on ultra conservative tunes with ONLY 7lbs of boost and keeping the redline at 6000RPM to keep the harmonics in check and avoiding the OEM block from splitting. If I can just get my hands on a Dart or Boss block and swap everything to it, I would be closer to 750+ FWHP, at least! .

Not cheap.
 
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